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10 egregious myths the religious perpetuate about atheists, debunked
Nonbelievers do not lack a basic moral code -- despite what the likes of David Brooks might have you believe
AMANDA MARCOTTE, ALTERNET
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In a regular poll conducted by political scientists Robert Putnam and David Campbell on American political attitudes, atheists recently lost their spot as as the most disliked group in America to the Tea Party. Still, number two is simply way too high in the unpopularity rankings for a group of people who just happen to spend Sunday mornings in bed instead of in church. Polling data shows that nearly half of Americans would disapprove if their child married an atheist and nearly 40 percent of Americans dont see atheists as sharing their vision of American society, numbers that outstripped similar prejudices toward Muslims and African Americans.
Of course, the real reason atheists are so hated has little to do with jealousy for all their free time, but largely because most Americans are better acquainted with myths than with the realities of atheists lives. Unfortunately, atheists often have these myths tossed in their faces, usually by believers who would rather talk about what they heard atheists are like rather than uncomfortable subjects such as the lack of proof for any gods.
These myths do more than hurt atheists. They also harm the basic religious freedoms of all Americans, regardless of their beliefs. Religious freedom and tolerance dont mean much if they cant be expanded to include those without religion. With that in mind, heres 10 of the ugliest myths about atheists, debunked:
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3) Atheists are aggressive and rude. This myth has been around in various forms for a long time, but it really took off after the rise of New Atheism, which focuses its energy on disproving religious claims instead of merely pleading for tolerance of atheists. This myth only persists because belief is unconsciously privileged over atheism, causing people to believe its somehow ruder for an atheist to say, I dont believe in God and heres why than for a believer to intrude in your personal space with pamphlets, attack people when theyre feeling low with religious claims, knock on your door to proselytize, or force your children to recite religious language in school. Objectively speaking, believers commit transgressions against good manners far more than atheists. But atheist arguments tend to disturb believers more than arguments for God disturb atheists, so atheists get an unfair reputation for being rude, even when they are merely outspoken or unapologetic.
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bvf
(6,604 posts)"New atheists" are simply atheists who open their mouths and speak their minds.
No one, so far as I know, is out to "disprove" anything.
Bookmarked.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)And I agree about the "New Atheists" bullshit.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)#3 nails it. Broadcast your prayers, religious songs, say how wonderful you think god is and how you KNOW it exists, and it's fine. Commendable, even. Say "I don't believe any of that because..." and you're the EVIL BIGOTED HEARTLESS ATHEIST WHO NEEDS TO SHUT UP.
deucemagnet
(4,549 posts)Nothing new here, but the points are made very well.
Rob H.
(5,570 posts)Not really a shock, though, given how obsessed some of them are with trawling the internet to find and repost articles that are even mildly critical of atheists and atheism.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)And they always seem like such nice, reasonable friendly types, too.
Rob H.
(5,570 posts)...just to try to score rhetorical points. Shocking, I know.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Thanks, DU Ignore feature!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I don't mind seeing their truly Christ-like behaviour when criticism of their religion gets on their last nerve.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)#3 is spot on, desperate anti-atheists created the straw man "New Atheism" because they needed an easy target.
They've been burning it in effigy for over a decade now but their efforts to malign atheism and atheists are failing. The shrill outrage that follows every perceived slight against religion just alienates more people.
#4 is pretty good too:
Atheists aren't the ones oppressing women and most of us are intelligent enough to realize that. The apologists who insult women by trying to convince us that atheism has a misogyny problem are especially vile.
Sorry honey, we're not that stupid.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)The most hated group is now the Tea Party????? How come there are so many of them in Congress, but atheist are as scarce as hens' teeth.
Promethean
(468 posts)is one of the best examples of that specific rebuttal I've seen earning extra points for simplicity and not being too long.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)That same "atheism-is-just-another-belief-system" meme is usually added to some disparaging comment about atheist organizations, like "why do you need to get together to talk about something you don't believe in?"
Oh and the ever-popular, "I'm way better than you atheists because I don't have a dogmatic belief system...I'M AGNOSTIC!"