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Is a big myth about atheism just a projection of right-wing Christian rage?
By Amanda Marcotte / AlterNet
April 20, 2015
The stereotype of the angry atheist, much like the stereotype of the angry feminist, is widespread, used by believers to stigmatize and discredit atheists. The eagerness to discredit atheists makes sense, as many of the faithful fear that arguments against the existence of the supernatural are too persuasive and so want to discourage even listening to atheists in the first place. But its always seemed weird to me that calling someone angry is supposed to be such a slam dunk insult, suggesting, as it does, that complacency is some kind of virtue.
Not that this is a new observation, of course. Greta Christina, in a post she later developed into the book, Why Are You Atheists So Angry, explained that anger in the face of injustices wrought by religion is the appropriate response. Because anger has driven every major movement for social change in this country, and probably in the world, she wrote. Without anger, you have complacency, which allows injustice to continue.
Atheists are well within their rights to be angry, but new research shows that the image of the forever-raging atheist is a stereotype concocted by believers, and not upheld by any real-world evidence. A recent paper published in the Journal of Psychology details how researchers reviewed seven different studies about atheists and anger. The studies showed that believers generally claim that atheists are angry. The studys finding that believers frequently call atheists angry is easy to see in the real world. The world of religious media is full of examples of believers accusing atheists of being angry. Believers in social media love to lob that accusation, too, sharing endless memes and cartoons portraying atheists as spittle-flecked rage machines.
The thing is, when atheists are actually tested for anger, they are no more angry than anyone else. The image of the angry atheist is nothing more than a way for believers to dismiss atheists and their arguments against the existence of God.
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So the next time you're told that your anger is alienating believers, tell them to shove their complacency where the sun don't shine.
You're doing your part to fight injustice.
And smile when you say it.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)over in Religion, as a commentary to some vapid Salonesque cut-and-paste, that so-and-so atheist is "hurting the movement" and alienating people by being so "angry"? And usually from people who not only can't even show that there IS a movement like the one they claim, and who wouldn't give a rat fuck about it even if they could.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)A girl in a picture was said that she seemed angry, and that she could use prayer, from an atheist, no less (maybe agnostic, people get so bent out of shape over that, it's actually kind of offencive really)
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But Dawkins!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)has been leveled at Dawkins and Hitchens. They just like hearing from people smarter than them.
nil desperandum
(654 posts)Well for what it's worth atheists' rage seems a lot less physically harmful than religious rage to those who hold different views.
Religion might not have a lock on violence in response to criticism or in support of belief systems, but they have a serious lead when it comes to actual acts of violence. Religious anger is far more dangerous than atheist anger.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Atheists get angry and draw cartoons, religionists get angry and mow cartoonists down with automatic weapons.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)I am angry. Very angry, in fact. The harm done daily by the major religions is horrifying. Even the "progressive" ones still have major issues. The Catholic Church is still driving teens to suicide, still attacking women and gender studies, still banning contraceptive use. The fundies are attempting to enslave or kill off all women. Islam still can't get along with itself in the Middle East, let alone Judaism and the others. It's nuts, it's horrible, and I am not okay with it. I'm not going to hide that.
That said, the angry atheist stereotype is definitely wrong, and needs to go away. Even if I'm pissed, I still talk to people reasonably. I'm "angry" because I speak up for myself, I say something when I disagree with religion. Hell, even the militant, firebreathing, baby-eating monsters like Dawkins and Hitchens put up with far more shit from and are far more polite to religion and the religious than I've ever seen the other way around.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)"I'm not going to hide that."
Exactly, apologists don't want to address the damage done in the name of religion, so they malign atheists who speak out.
I think it's the duty of every liberal to speak up for minorities, not dismiss their anger.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)If that god existed I could never worship him.
Gets in a snit and kills every creature on the planet except for Noah's family and just two of every species.
Seriously?
Someone has serious anger management issues, and it's not the op.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)about unicorns, apparently. Whacked every one and didn't even leave a pair.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The one with the dinosaurs on it.
Can't find that cartoon...dammit.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)out of government, maybe I wouldn't be angry. Between the erosion of women's right and the assaults on LGBT community, religion in this country is nothing but so much stench.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But what you posted is exactly why I became an anti-theist too.
When the RCC can use its wealth and influence to restrict our rights in this country we've got a major religion problem.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)And we have members of the house bringing up "render unto Caesar" arguments to attack DC's birth control privacy laws. Oh, and they don't even see the irony in this that argument (Jesus saying "pay your taxes, deadbeat "
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)If my parents had kept their villa in Brussels I would be so out of here.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I wish I could afford to emigrate to a Scandinavian country.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)who profess to be "liberal" and "progressive" Christians defend and enable those infringements on the rights of a large segment of the population.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Smearing atheists on DU takes precedence.
The pope's homophobia and misogyny, pfft.
Dawkins is arrogant!
Novara
(6,115 posts)Exactly. Get yer goddamn religion outta my politics!
progressoid
(50,748 posts)And "happy holidays"!1
And Dwakings!!1!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Poor oppressed christians...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)They're just ANGRY!
Angry that other people live on the planet.