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1) Good Person?
2) Why Not Just Spare Us All
3) Open Minded Jerk
4) The Other Erroneous Assertion
5) None of the Above/Other (please post example)
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onager
(9,356 posts)Because it reminds me of some DU neighborhoods...
nil desperandum
(654 posts)Indeed, I got a hide for poking fun at the little muslim prophet here on DU recently....islamophobe I am apparently...
The reality of course is all religions are idiotic testaments to man's inability to understand his environment and I can equally dislike them all. I made the mistake of saying that when contrasted currently christians pout and try to make new laws, but muslims kill you and your office colleagues...and somehow that made me a bigot...
Speaking the truth isn't bigotry, it's honesty. I'm sorry if the islam apologists don't get that but the current reality is the middle east is on fire because of radical islam...and Charlie Hebdo indicates just how close to the surface that sentiment lies in supposedly first world nations...we see the marathon bombers here in Boston, the shooter in Fort Hood...there are indeed christians killing abortion doctors as well, religion has brought us this violence...to pretend otherwise is to lie to oneself about reality.
Jurors, I appreciate your consideration of where this is posted and why it would only be posted here. Thank you.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because logic.
Great choices, you never disappoint.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)He's correct, y'know.
deucemagnet
(4,549 posts)Same bullshit, different century.
Some interesting facts from his wiki page:
The next pope, Clement VIII, set great store by him. He was made rector of the Roman College in 1592, examiner of bishops in 1598, and cardinal in 1599. Immediately after his appointment as Cardinal, Pope Clement made him a Cardinal Inquisitor, in which capacity he served as one of the judges at the trial of Giordano Bruno, and concurred in the decision which condemned Bruno to be burned at the stake as a heretic.[5]
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The Galileo case
In 1616, on the orders of Paul V, Bellarmine summoned Galileo, notified him of a forthcoming decree of the Congregation of the Index condemning the Copernican doctrine of the mobility of the Earth and the immobility of the Sun, and ordered him to abandon it.[6] Galileo agreed to do so.[7]
When Galileo later complained of rumors to the effect that he had been forced to abjure and do penance, Bellarmine wrote out a certificate denying the rumors, stating that Galileo had merely been notified of the decree and informed that, as a consequence of it, the Copernican doctrine could not be "defended or held".[8] Cardinal Bellarmine believed such a demonstration could not be found because it would contradict the unanimous consent of the Fathers' scriptural exegesis, to which the Council of Trent, in 1546,[9] defined all Catholics must adhere. Moreover there wasn't a scientific certainty in the Copernicanism and, in very truth, the reality showed the opposite: our own eyes can observe the sun moves, while there's no evident trace of the movement of the earth and of the immobility of the sun, except for some hypothetical "results" of these phenomenons (as the tidal movement, studied by Galileo), which don't represent any logical necessity of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bellarmine
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So that's what gets you canonized in the Catholic church. But surely, you might suggest, we can't hold today's Catholics responsible for others who canonized him in a time when such things were more widely accepted? Well, only if repressing science and burning heretics at the stake were acceptable in 1930.