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Tom The Dancing Bug takes on Trudeau (Original Post) mr blur Apr 2015 OP
So spot on. n/t trotsky Apr 2015 #1
Perfect. PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #2
Thanks! Jerry Coyne on the same subject today... onager Apr 2015 #3
Oh way to ruin everything by bringing up context. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #6
I'd award the internets but ..... Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #4
"appropriate, non-murderworthy satire" beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #5

onager

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3. Thanks! Jerry Coyne on the same subject today...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:54 AM
Apr 2015

Including comments by Robert Wilson, Charlie Hebdo's only English-speaking writer (he's Irish).

Along with other sane people, Wilson notes that before using "islamopobe" and "racist" on the dead cartoonists, it's critical to understand French. And even more important, to understand something about current French politics.

CH was often attacked for cartoons stripped of their context. And sometimes even stripped of their captions. Which ended with the ridiculousness of CH being attacked as racists, when the very cartoons used as proof of their racism were satires of the racism on the French Far Right.

Jebus, we live in crazy times...

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/charlie-hebdo-was-neither-racist-nor-islamophobic/

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. Oh way to ruin everything by bringing up context.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:30 PM
Apr 2015

Jerry Coyne's blog is all kinds of awesome.

He then adds this (Wilson’s piece is funny):

Charlie is often vulgar, puerile and slightly nauseating. But everyone endures the brunt of this approach: right, left and in-between. They are not always funny (they are French, after all). But sometimes, that is because they are doing 4-page spreads on the reality of Roma camps in France or doggedly chronicling the gross extremes of France’s lurch to the right.

They have a weekly space for animal rights stories, for Chrissakes!!! Run by a woman who calls herself Luce Lapin. With the best will in the world, even if Lucy Rabbit wanted to be a racist or a fascist, how good at it would she be with a name like that? What would all the other racists and fascists think? The truth about the Charlie people is that they’re …well…just a little bit geeky.

Yes, Charlie is tasteless and discomfiting. Have I somehow missed all the gentle, polite satire? That amiable, convenient satire that everybody likes.

If you speak French and you tell me you think Charlie is racist, I can respect that. If you don’t speak French and you tell me the same, well (how to put this politely?)…sorry, I can’t actually put it politely.



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beam me up scottie

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5. "appropriate, non-murderworthy satire"
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:26 PM
Apr 2015
Tom the Dancing Bug, IN WHICH the Doonesbury gang denounces the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists and draws the line for appropriate, non-murderworthy satire.


Brilliant!



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