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Hello fellow vermin!! (Original Post) truebrit71 Apr 2015 OP
Is that a step up or a step down from being a fucking fuck? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #1
Good question, all we do know for sure is that they are DU jury-approved descriptions... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #3
that one is an example of an atheist who believes in gods and demons and prayer. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #7
I can say for certain that I'm not praying. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #10
That one got like 200 recs Doctor_J Apr 2015 #17
Who said that? Ignore means I have to guess. mr blur Apr 2015 #2
Boats. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #4
Just know that it was a Tacky comment. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #5
Must be ignore working its magic Warpy Apr 2015 #6
That screen name means "veer to the right". Doctor_J Apr 2015 #24
Vermin Love Supreme Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #8
Doh! progressoid Apr 2015 #32
The host of the group has now self-deleted the OP muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #9
No, I wasn't the alerter... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #11
Ah, my apologies for ascribing that mistake to you muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #13
I would hope that it would be have had a different result... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #15
They neither help nor hinder Cartoonist Apr 2015 #12
No kidding, just imagine the reaction skepticscott Apr 2015 #14
Oh but that's different! JNelson6563 May 2015 #61
Reason 1=Prvilege!! skepticscott May 2015 #63
Can't wait to see you guys! JNelson6563 May 2015 #67
I have long identified as something like a porcupine, so this is remarkably accurate. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #16
Actually, I think it pre-dates American-English mr blur Apr 2015 #21
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #18
I'm not naming any names here, but mr blur Apr 2015 #19
Yep. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #20
At least the "vermin" name-calling is original... onager Apr 2015 #27
muriel pointed out how offensive that language is in GD. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #29
A good point, bmus. trotsky Apr 2015 #37
I got banned from Interfaith first ever post for using "religionista". mr blur Apr 2015 #53
Indeed. We need to be more careful with our language. n/t trotsky May 2015 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author deucemagnet Apr 2015 #43
Damn BMUS! haikugal May 2015 #59
We learned that all too well during the Charlie Hebdo incident LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #33
Is that similar to an Alien Anal Probe? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #22
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! - Cartman, lol! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #23
We're fascists too? trotsky Apr 2015 #38
Deja vu all over again. onager Apr 2015 #25
ZOMG!!! I remember you getting VERY ANGRY at his intrusion on DU2! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #30
He was a fuckin' prize, that one. trotsky Apr 2015 #39
Looks like you have pissed someone off... giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #40
Wow, I'm surprised that got three votes. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #44
Meh, I got a hide yesterday for saying fuck your link. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #47
LMAO trotsky Apr 2015 #49
But I have it on good authority from one of the nautical types that no one is lurking in AA... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #48
Exactly. Curiouser and curiouser AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #50
Your "good authority" Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #51
Oh, this person is very wise. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #52
Yes, we must imagine it. Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #56
Yeah, considering there wasn't any attack at all in the post muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #64
I think call-outs were verboted in DU2. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #65
They were; but this is DU3 muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #66
Thanks, giftedgirl77. Surprised I didn't get an Alert. onager Apr 2015 #54
Lolololololol, this place has gone alert mad. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #55
Normally the hosts don't like cross-group battles EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #26
But only an Internet bully. I'm sure IRL, milquetoast is the apt description. cleanhippie May 2015 #62
Unreal. deucemagnet Apr 2015 #28
Vermin Supreme! They found out about our leader! progressoid Apr 2015 #31
: waveback : LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #34
this convinced me I'm more Atheist than Catholic asharpwone Apr 2015 #35
As onager's picture so aptly reminds us... trotsky Apr 2015 #36
Batten down the hatches! onager Apr 2015 #41
This. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #42
It's usually a sign, that's for sure. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #45
It's a badge of honor now. trotsky Apr 2015 #46
Well, I for one welcome our new Verminous Overlords (nt) mr blur May 2015 #57
What a special treat. trotsky May 2015 #60
Maybe some people haven't had their shots... onager May 2015 #68
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
3. Good question, all we do know for sure is that they are DU jury-approved descriptions...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:03 PM
Apr 2015

...of Atheist by some of the "christians" on this board.

My other favourite part is this "Take comfort in the knowledge that most of us, including atheists, are praying in our own ways "

Um, no. Entirely and utterly, NO we're not praying.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. that one is an example of an atheist who believes in gods and demons and prayer.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:08 PM
Apr 2015

a "tactical atheist".

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
10. I can say for certain that I'm not praying.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:22 PM
Apr 2015

I'm not even "visualizing." Some atheists are neither militant nor atheist.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
2. Who said that? Ignore means I have to guess.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:02 PM
Apr 2015

Can you give me a clue? Were there boats involved? goats? Ducks?

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
6. Must be ignore working its magic
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:07 PM
Apr 2015

and now I have to go take a shower for getting near that group and I hate taking showers these days because I'm afraid I'm going to break my other leg and now I have a hunk of cardiac flotsam attached to me that needs care and feeding.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
8. Vermin Love Supreme
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:13 PM
Apr 2015
Vermin Love Supreme is an American performance artist and activist who is known for running as an alternative candidate in various local, state, and national elections in the United States. Supreme is known for wearing a boot as a hat and carrying a large toothbrush. He has said that if elected President of the United States, he will pass a law requiring people to brush their teeth. He also campaigned in 2012 on a platform of zombie apocalypse awareness (and zombie-based energy plan) and time travel research, and he promises a free pony for every American. Supreme claims to mock the political system. In 2011, he participated in the Occupy Boston protests.


muriel_volestrangler

(102,502 posts)
9. The host of the group has now self-deleted the OP
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:21 PM
Apr 2015

However, the worst bit of the contents of the offending post are on record, even if the person who called DUers 'vermin' also self-deletes.

By the way, you should have highlighted the word 'vermin' in the alert (I assume it was you who alerted, given the URL you've posted). I seem to have been the only juror to notice the 'vermin' remark.

On Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:32 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Ignore them. They neither help nor hinder
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1225&pid=595

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is meta. SOP of the Prayer group specifies no meta.

"This room is not for meta. This room is not to settle scores. This room is not to mock believers or non-believers."

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:46 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This isn't an OP; it's just a reply. If it were a violation of the SOP it still wouldn't be up to jury to decide if it belongs here or not.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While the comment is very broad it does not violate any other standards.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Wha??? meta for the jury?? There is nothing wrong in this post. It is up to host of the group to hide threads that don't belong, but this is not even an OP. Come on, alerter! Get a life outside if you have to troll the Prayer Group.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Don't go to the Religion
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm hiding this for the comparison of some DUers to 'vermin'. That is rude, over-the-top, and dehumanising.
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
11. No, I wasn't the alerter...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:25 PM
Apr 2015

I tried, but was informed it had already been alerted on.

Seems I'm not the only one that thinks that it isn't appropriate to call fellow DU'ers "vermin"....

muriel_volestrangler

(102,502 posts)
13. Ah, my apologies for ascribing that mistake to you
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:38 PM
Apr 2015

I assumed by the timestamp that it had been your alert I served on. It would be interesting to know what the jury would have said if 'vermin' had been pointed out in the alert (juror #1 may have hidden for that reason, of course, and I can't work out what #5 was saying).

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
15. I would hope that it would be have had a different result...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:17 PM
Apr 2015

...but you never can tell sometimes with DU juries...some just don't bother to read, or get the context of the post that's been alerted on.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
14. No kidding, just imagine the reaction
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:15 PM
Apr 2015

if an atheist in our safe haven had referred to Catholics as "vermin". Or Mormons. Or Native Americans. Or Blacks. Or multi-racial people. Or homosexuals. But apparently those in the God-loving, oh-so-charitable prayer circle think it's perfectly appropriate to refer to atheist DUers that way. And not a word of protest from any of the self-righteous preachers of 'civility' that inhabit those spaces. Why am I not surprised, given who is in charge over there?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. I have long identified as something like a porcupine, so this is remarkably accurate.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:26 PM
Apr 2015
Porcupines are rodents with a coat of sharp spines, or quills, that protect them against predators. The term covers two families of animals, the Old World porcupines and New World porcupines. Both families belong to the Hystricognathi branch of the vast order Rodentia, both display similar coats of quills, but they still are quite different and are not closely related.


Vermin is etymologically derived from Varmint.

"Varmint or varmit is an American-English colloquialism, particularly common to the American east and South-east within the nearby bordering states of the vast Appalachia region. The term describes farm pests which raid farms as opposed to infest farms—mainly predators such as foxes, weasels, and coyotes, sometimes even wolves or rarely, bears, but also, to a lesser degree, herbivores and burrowing animals that directly damage crops and land."

tl;dr Don't touch me.
 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
21. Actually, I think it pre-dates American-English
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:41 PM
Apr 2015

From the Latin "vermis", via old French to Middle English. I would have thought that "varmint" came from "vermin", not vice versa.

Sorry to contradict you but we vermin are an disruptive lot. Ask any sailor.

Response to truebrit71 (Original post)

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
19. I'm not naming any names here, but
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:29 PM
Apr 2015

there really are some disgusting excuses for human beings around, aren't there?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. muriel pointed out how offensive that language is in GD.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:23 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6590615

It's certainly much worse than anything I've ever seen DU atheists post about believers.

After the poster got shut down in that group, they decided to follow up with a thread in the other forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218195175

To show atheists who don't pray that we're clueless because he prays and you know, he's an atheist too.





trotsky

(49,533 posts)
37. A good point, bmus.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:36 AM
Apr 2015

I was trying to think of the worst thing any atheist has called a believer here on DU. Apologist, accommodationist, "religionista," I can't think of a single thing that even comes close to labeling a group of people as something that carries disease and/or needs to be exterminated. What horrible hatred. So glad I have that individual on ignore.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
53. I got banned from Interfaith first ever post for using "religionista".
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:53 PM
Apr 2015

I should have used "vermin", as that is more acceptable to the religionistas, apparently. Who knew?

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #29)

LostOne4Ever

(9,597 posts)
33. We learned that all too well during the Charlie Hebdo incident
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:49 PM
Apr 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Some of the comments coming from people back then made me physically ill.[/font]

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! - Cartman, lol!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015

From now on that's whose voice I'll hear in my head whenever I read his posts.

You will respect his authoritah!

Fuck the bigots and bullies and nasty hate mongering anti-theists. Fuck all fascists.


trotsky

(49,533 posts)
38. We're fascists too?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:41 AM
Apr 2015

When one's hatred turns one into a caricature, perhaps it's time to go get some therapy.

onager

(9,356 posts)
25. Deja vu all over again.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:30 PM
Apr 2015

I'm pretty sure the other half of that couple once referred to us as "vermin," too.

This was a few years ago, and I think the post was in the old "Meta/Hosts" group.

It stuck in my mind at the time because of her constantly chiding other people about civility, etc.

Old-timers: this was back when yet another member of the family was posting. You may remember that he suddenly popped up in the Religion group asking for "Fresh New Perspectives On Religion" etc.

Well, that turned out to be the same stale old perspectives for A/As - sit down, STFU, and just marvel at the awesomeness of our religion. Oh, and please join us in fighting our common enemy, the Religious Right, after we get finished insulting you. Yeah, I'll sign right up for that...

That family member also barged into the A/A group, shaking his cyber-finger at us and demanding that we respect his inane God-bothering. But that didn't last long.

I think I may still have that other "vermin" post archived somewhere. It's so old it may not still be searchable with normal methods. I'll post it in this thread if I find it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
30. ZOMG!!! I remember you getting VERY ANGRY at his intrusion on DU2!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:32 PM
Apr 2015

It took me a while to find the thread but here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=263x44668


RIGHTEOUS !!!


Angry onager is very sexy, btw.


That family's rise to power preceded my extended break from DU.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
39. He was a fuckin' prize, that one.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:42 AM
Apr 2015

Anti-atheist bigot, thought everything good in the world was brought into it via religion. So glad he took his bigotry and left.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
40. Looks like you have pissed someone off...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:26 AM
Apr 2015

On Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:45 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

ZOMG!!! I remember you getting VERY ANGRY at his intrusion on DU2!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1230&pid=40857

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personal attack on fellow DU members and family and call-out of members not participating in this thread

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:16 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with alerter, enough of these personal attacks on DUers, the place is becoming hostile to those who are here to discuss issues. 
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is so obtuse that unless you know a great deal more than I do it just seems like a tantrum which liberals can certainly deal with.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid ass, really should be banned for their behaviors, never nice, always stirring shit.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Seems personal.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seems acceptable 

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
47. Meh, I got a hide yesterday for saying fuck your link.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:43 PM
Apr 2015

& was then chastised for using such harsh language. It's all a damn crap shoot.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
48. But I have it on good authority from one of the nautical types that no one is lurking in AA...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:54 PM
Apr 2015

...looking for posts to hide.

BMUS' ultra-specific post must really have raised the ire of some random passerby, no?

muriel_volestrangler

(102,502 posts)
64. Yeah, considering there wasn't any attack at all in the post
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:52 PM
May 2015

it's surprising - and worrying. Some jurors seem to take the word of an alerter for it without even reading the post, let alone ones around it.

And it pisses me off in all kinds of DU situations that alerts whine 'call-out!!!!' when there is absolutely nothing about call-outs in the DU rules.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,502 posts)
66. They were; but this is DU3
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:52 PM
May 2015

Every single alert that uses the phrase 'call-out' needs to explicitly justify why it's a problem for 'community standards', as far as I'm concerned. This idea of "never talk about DU on DU" doesn't make any sense as a principle. Perhaps starting threads to trash someone is 'disruptive'; but pointing out relevant poor behaviour is not, I think.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
55. Lolololololol, this place has gone alert mad.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:03 PM
Apr 2015

I got a hide yesterday for saying "fuck your link, what's the question?". Then lectured by the jury members about my language.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
26. Normally the hosts don't like cross-group battles
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:39 PM
Apr 2015

But fuck it - Justin's a bully and deserves the criticism.

deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
28. Unreal.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:43 PM
Apr 2015

Outspoken atheists are vermin. Cartoonist-murdering zealots are victims. We have always been at war with Oceania.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
36. As onager's picture so aptly reminds us...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:28 AM
Apr 2015

it's far better to be on the side of people who are called "vermin" than it is on the side of people calling them "vermin."

Proud to stand with you guys against the assholes!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
46. It's a badge of honor now.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:54 PM
Apr 2015

If you're hated by someone that foul and nasty, it's a great sign you're doing something right.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
60. What a special treat.
Fri May 1, 2015, 09:10 AM
May 2015

Calling out misogynistic homophobes gets your post deleted. Calling the people who point out your misogyny and homophobia "vermin" is fine.

Gotta love DU.

onager

(9,356 posts)
68. Maybe some people haven't had their shots...
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:32 AM
May 2015

This is not just a shameless way to BUMP this most enjoyable thread. Nah, I wouldn't do that...

Just wanted to pass on the vaccination offer from FEMEN, at their anti-Le Pen protest yesterday. And after the Charlie Hebdo clusterfuck, I completely expect the American media to describe that protest as "topless Nazi women invade Paris" or something equally stupid.

From the FEMEN Facebook page:

The patient is often suffering from hallucinations, cult of personality, xenophobia, superiority complex over foreigners, homophobia, racism, sexism and other terrible symptoms. The FEMEN treatment of the fascist epidemic spread by Front National in Europe is going on. The union of extreme-right wing parties coordinated by Front National, UKIP, Freedom Party and others is threatening to become a plague for a democratic Europe. A quick recognition of the disease and its treatment is necessary, to avoid European standards of life being replaced by fascists norms. Make your anti fascists vaccine today. Be healthy and enjoy the democracy! Vaccins anti Fascistes!

Here's a story about the protest:

http://oluwadamilolaadelekan.blogspot.com/2014/05/femen-topless-members-protest-for.html

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