that the thread you speak of was antagonistic and against the rules.

Flamebait I believe it's called.

It's pointless, rude, and against the rules.

Which is the point, in case you missed it.

if it claimed all atheists were immoral assholes destined for hell?

As a "nonpracticing" atheist myself, I find any aggressive promotion of religious, or nonreligious, belief offensive.

"all nonbelievers are vermin"

I read it as "some militant nonbelievers use any entry to attack and trash believers."

And those who do that are indeed vermin.

A straw man argument used by anti-atheist bigots.

Is that one yours or did you borrow it from the homophobic hypocrite who wrote that post?

I am shocked you're siding with that one.

Shocked I tell ya.

trolling religious expression doesn't happen around here?

Go ahead and try-- not only won't you convince me, but there are a lot of other people reading who think you're full of it.

I have a fan club???

Speaking of trolling, how much time do you spend here?

Are there any subjects you want to see discussed?

Maybe a suggestion for an option on one of our fabulously popular internet polls?


Speaking of fabulous, have you seen our numbers lately?:

bragged about your own group.

What you do in your own group is usually OK. What you outside of your group is my point.

And why are you grouping me in with believers in general?

There, fixed that for you.

I'm not grouping you in with believers, most of them don't troll here, they mind their own business.

I'm grouping you in with the other hypocrites who whine about our behaviour instead of you know, minding their own business.

I just took a long hard look at your group and after what's been said about AA members there, your arrogance and bullshit accusations of intolerance are even more hypocritical.

There are no words to even describe that kind of hypocrisy.


Listen up, bub, when I go barging into your group whining about your posts and trolling your discussions, then and only then will you have the right to confront me about my behaviour.



Get off that high horse, pick up its shit and go practice what you preach in your own house.

for trolling and starting fights in that group, so that's done and gone already.

Now, once again-- I have no problem with anything anyone does in this group; I even agree with you guys most of the time. I do have a problem with some of the things done in other groups.

As far as scurrilous attacks on individuals here, or even on ideas proposed, I'm not aware of that being a big problem. If it is, you might alert or contact the hosts about specific problems. We don't actually like insults over there, even if it's our own people starting it.

I've only gone into interfaith once and that was to explain to an atheist that they were in the wrong place. Do a search.

it was an honest mistake.

the good porn is on.

At any rate, we seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing so I'm bailing.

Really? Because when one of Interfaith's regulars made this comment, not only did none of the hosts seem to have a problem with it, one of them was there yukking it up right along with him. Another regular agreed, and the same host found that agreement funny, too.

Until you're as concerned with the tone in your own safe haven as you seem to be with the tone in this one, you should really think twice about wagging your finger at anyone here.

Edit: And in case you've forgotten, another regular signed off one of his posts to an atheist with, "In conclusion, fuck you, you fucking fucker," which did get hidden, but it got turned around on the person to whom the response was directed and he was blamed because apparently his mere presence was "baiting." The comment was even defended elsewhere and continued to be blamed on the person at whom it was directed. If you come out of this thread remembering nothing else, remember that.

I don't see anyone from A&A actively 'trolling' believers outside that well-defined camp.

your empty interfaith echo chamber? Good luck with that. You will have to be much more direct to get the desired output.

and insulting are your stock in trade.

Who meets your definition? Are there people on DU who do?

Should they be exterminated like vermin?

"And those who do that are indeed vermin"

what about people who trash the KKK? Are they vermin?

If starting prayers in a general discussion forum isn't aggressively promoting their religion, than what is?

Plus it's a huge strawman, equating an atheist saying "Hey I'm here, and what you're doing actually offends people" to pretty much anything a church does, as they can't breathe without thanking god that he made it possible.

in other words, check your privilege.

either religious or anti-religious expressions in GD?

And I don't say I support prayer circles in GD-- there's another place for that.

that would be a theist.

So take your own damn advice. How fucking hateful.

perhaps you can pray to your atheist gods that I will stop pointing out your nonsense.

Shall we talk about hats?

I mean, so you won't be offended.

The latest cleaning products for the bath? I know! We can talk about how lovely spring is every year. That won't offend anyone at all! And we can just pretend religion is still just all hunky dory and atheists should shut up.

Er ... what did you mean by "nonpracticing"?

It's not like we get alerted on by people who actually lie about the posts in here.

Or anything.

and you must be getting as bored with it as the rest of us.

Hop over to Interfaith and see how long you last before the hammer drops. The would, at least, put you in good company.

unless you pray really, really hard for mercy.

Drop a couple of turds and leave, eh? Someone over there has taught him well.

It's very effective.

We kicked the shit out of the Germans twice, Japan once, Spain once, Mexico once, England 1 1/2 times.

Issa, Taliban and Alquaida, not so much.

it was right after saying "please let this spin be the winner."

Look at all the times prayer worked for us!

(Shh, ignore the times it didn't!)

They're here to school us.

Helpful would have been something along the lines of opining about the downside of religious flame fests in GD.

I've given up on sending alerts on religious posts in GD, because the hosts let them stay in violation of the SOP.

If so, read Mark Twain's "The War Prayer."

for G_j , who is the OP of #PrayforNepal, then No.

Maybe you gored the wrong ox?

But evidently some things just aren't open for discussion, like high-ranking government people imploring imaginary beings to assist in the aftermath of a natural disaster which was in all likelihood caused by aforementioned imaginary beings.

If we allow too much criticism of religion it will drive voters from the party.

Or so I've been told.



This poll was posted after the Charlie Hebdo massacre and the backlash against religion in GD:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026097760

Imo outrage against hateful ideology is a healthy reaction, doesn't matter if it's the pope using homophobic hate speech or muslims killing cartoonists.

But that's just me.

Even in the sanctity of "our own forum", religious privilege seeps in to point out the errors of our ways.

"non-practicing atheist" is somewhere between oxymoron and nonsensical, but it smells the same as when someone starts with talking about their "atheist friends."

What next, a guest appearance by an agnostic to lecture about Pascal's Wager?

Generally we put up with it unless it gets out of hand. Watching the boundary pushing take place is an amusement.

Very amusing indeed!

We uppity atheists just need to understand that religious belief is IMPORTANT because... well just because so SHUT UP and just go along with it! Thankfully there are many folks willing to take on the burden of putting us vermin in our place.