When I saw your other post saying you had posted this is in "AA", my first thought was "no you didn't!" I subscribe to the other AA group (African-American) and it didn't light up the folder. LOL!

More to the point of the article and the subject line, is this type of incitement against GLBT is partially due to "victory blindness" (see: Five Words Of Wisdom From The Man Who Gave Us Outing) and the idea we, as gays, don't "act that way." Quite frankly, I find some of the defenses I am seeing as Islamophobic because this behavior is "expected." Hell, 2...TWO...radicals acted like assholes and they weren't even from that state! So why are people making it seem like they were "defenseless" against the evil bigotry from Gellar?! None of the Muslims that lived in the town even showed up to protest because they didn't feel it warranted their time.

The media rarely does offer the "two sides" with other bigotries, other than as a method to expose the stupidity of it.

I agree with your comments about how Muslims are being compared to various animals (I saw one post of a cartoon with a rattlesnake) and am mystified those people actually think they are defending Muslims, and everyone else is the raging bigot.

Of course, during our conversations on various threads, I was 'watching' (it is running in the background) "Family Guy" and it was the Christmas episode, given the past week, I think this sums it up nicely:

Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.
Bob: Outrageous, How dare he say such blasphemy! I've got to do something.
Man: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: Well I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.

If not a sense of humor, at least a sense of understanding that attempting to gun down people for blasphemy is not a reasonable response!

Kind of like when you see people saying "So what if two sisters want to marry each other, they're consenting adults."

I remember that episode, lol!

I have to start watching more reruns...

Of course, there is also the matter of when the victims are certain groups (as in the article above) and the shooters are. Case in point, last year (April 2014), a neo-Nazi POS shit murdered 3 people at a Jewish day care and senior center. I am sure much too his chagrin (and others) no Jews were actually killed. However, the conversations weren't about anti-Semitism, they weren't about the evils of neo-Nazis, no, the conversations turned into conversations about guns and gun control! There are also weren't scores of threads about the event, nor did it garner the number of comments in the threads that were created. The two aren't completely comparable, but there were noticeable differences in its reception.

If SCOTUS decides sides in our favour you just know what's coming next.

The same people who complain about women because we get all hysterical about abortion rights will say you guys got your pink pony so go sit down and shut up already.

They think Roe v Wade was the end of the fight.

And now I read this. The nightmare I can dismiss, but now I've become uneasy. I'm one of those who until now, thought the bigots would just have to live with the changes. Now the question is, which side will the cops be on?

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I worry more about small groups of vigilantes than large mobs. Individual lgbt people and couples are easy targets when homophobes are whipped up into a frenzy.

These preachers make me sick, and I'm sick of people telling me "they're not real Christians," because, indeed they are.

His followers seem to think that because they're acting on his orders it absolves them of any blame.

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For a minute there I thought you were talking to me - probably because someone kept calling me 'dude' in GD yesterday.

I was like, wtf?

Hiding behind 1st Amend, RW religionists have incited violence against all they oppose: Obama, LGBTQ, atheists, Muslims... all in the name of their 'peaceful' Christianity. It would be tough to find a stronger proponent of 1stA than I, but too often, Dobson, Fischer & their ilk spout the equivalent of 'fire!' in a crowded theater.

Another reply hit on the big danger: isolated cases of violence that don't get back to the wide-spread hate mongerers; as if the perpetrators weren't aware that their violence was condoned by the vocal screeds of so-called Christian leaders

Charlie Hebdo is still too fresh in our minds, and the Geller incident just made it that much worse.

Speech is never a justification for violence. Geller's bigotry - no matter how offensive - didn't provoke two people into shooting at her group; that's all on them.


If we made hate speech illegal, much of what is preached from the pulpit would have to be banned.

Besides, I would rather have bigots parading their hatred around out in the open where we can keep an eye on them.