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Louisiana: Burning Science at the Stake
By Phil Plait
4.56 billion? You don't look a day over 6000.
Quick background: In 2008, creationist Gov. Bobby Jindal signed the Louisiana Science Education Act into law. If there is a more Orwellian-named law, Im unaware of it: Its a blatant attempt to allow educators to teach creationism in public school science classes.
Science advocate Zack Kopplin (who is now 21) has tried to get the law repealed every year, and every year the appeal is denied by the Legislature.
Watching footage of the hearings is, quite simply, brain-exploding. In 2013, one legislator asked if E. coli bacteria would evolve into a human and another talked with dripping contempt for scientists. A third actually advocated using the teachings of a witch doctor in the classroom.
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Ill be blunt: If I were a university taking applications from students who graduated from Louisiana public schools, Id cast a careful eye over their application, especially in the sciences. That might be difficult for Louisiana universities, since Jindal is planning on brutally cutting their budgets, but its a necessary consequence of this sort of legislative environment.
This is not the students fault, of course, but of the Louisiana citizens who voteor, more likely, dont voteat election time.
Voting matters, people. Local elections are critical. Educate yourself on the issues and candidates, and when the time comes, vote for those who stick to evidence-based reasoning. Its no exaggeration to say our future depends on it.
By Phil Plait
4.56 billion? You don't look a day over 6000.
Quick background: In 2008, creationist Gov. Bobby Jindal signed the Louisiana Science Education Act into law. If there is a more Orwellian-named law, Im unaware of it: Its a blatant attempt to allow educators to teach creationism in public school science classes.
Science advocate Zack Kopplin (who is now 21) has tried to get the law repealed every year, and every year the appeal is denied by the Legislature.
Watching footage of the hearings is, quite simply, brain-exploding. In 2013, one legislator asked if E. coli bacteria would evolve into a human and another talked with dripping contempt for scientists. A third actually advocated using the teachings of a witch doctor in the classroom.
...
Ill be blunt: If I were a university taking applications from students who graduated from Louisiana public schools, Id cast a careful eye over their application, especially in the sciences. That might be difficult for Louisiana universities, since Jindal is planning on brutally cutting their budgets, but its a necessary consequence of this sort of legislative environment.
This is not the students fault, of course, but of the Louisiana citizens who voteor, more likely, dont voteat election time.
Voting matters, people. Local elections are critical. Educate yourself on the issues and candidates, and when the time comes, vote for those who stick to evidence-based reasoning. Its no exaggeration to say our future depends on it.
Slate article written by former student Zack:
Dismissing Darwin
Records show teachers and school board members conspiring to teach creationism in public school science class.
By Zack Kopplin
Louisianas education tribunal: Gov. Bobby Jindal, Jesus Christ, and state Rep. Valarie Hodges.
When I was a high school senior in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 2010, I began a campaign to repeal my states creationism law, which allows teachers to sneak religion into public school science classes by using materials that criticize evolution. Seventy-eight Nobel laureates and many other prominent scientists and educators have joined me in calling for the repeal of this law, officially known as the Louisiana Science Education Act, and tens of thousands of people have signed petitions against it over the past four years, but so far weve failed. Louisiana teachers can still bring religion into public school science classrooms, legally.
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Gov. Bobby Jindal was asked about this law by NBCs Education Nation and said, Ive got no problem if a school board, a local school board, says we want to teach our kids about creationism. That is in fact why he signed the law.
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Now I have evidence that its not just one teacher. I have evidence that religion, not science, is whats being taught systematically in some Louisiana school systems. I have obtained emails from creationist teachers and school administrators, as well as a letter signed by more than 20 current and former Louisiana science teachers in Ouachita Parish in which they say they challenge evolution in the classroom without legal tension or fear because of pro-creationism policies. Ive found the back door.
I requested a copy of the teacher-signed letter from the Ouachita Parish School Board. The first signature is from Robert Webber, the superintendent of Ouachita Parish Schools, but the school systems lawyer, Elmer Noah, told me that the letter was not a school board document and that the school system didnt possess it. I object to your characterization of the document as a public record, he said.
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From the governor who signed the law to the teachers who implement the policy, everyone recognizes this is about creationism. I told Sen. Appel that I wanted to work with the Senate Education Committee to investigate what was being taught in Louisiana. I would support that, he said. Im working on obtaining copies of Ouachitas and Centrals curricula and more emails. Im doing my part. The Senate Education Committee will consider a new bill to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act on Wednesday. I look forward to the legislators doing their part.
Records show teachers and school board members conspiring to teach creationism in public school science class.
By Zack Kopplin
Louisianas education tribunal: Gov. Bobby Jindal, Jesus Christ, and state Rep. Valarie Hodges.
When I was a high school senior in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 2010, I began a campaign to repeal my states creationism law, which allows teachers to sneak religion into public school science classes by using materials that criticize evolution. Seventy-eight Nobel laureates and many other prominent scientists and educators have joined me in calling for the repeal of this law, officially known as the Louisiana Science Education Act, and tens of thousands of people have signed petitions against it over the past four years, but so far weve failed. Louisiana teachers can still bring religion into public school science classrooms, legally.
...
Gov. Bobby Jindal was asked about this law by NBCs Education Nation and said, Ive got no problem if a school board, a local school board, says we want to teach our kids about creationism. That is in fact why he signed the law.
...
Now I have evidence that its not just one teacher. I have evidence that religion, not science, is whats being taught systematically in some Louisiana school systems. I have obtained emails from creationist teachers and school administrators, as well as a letter signed by more than 20 current and former Louisiana science teachers in Ouachita Parish in which they say they challenge evolution in the classroom without legal tension or fear because of pro-creationism policies. Ive found the back door.
I requested a copy of the teacher-signed letter from the Ouachita Parish School Board. The first signature is from Robert Webber, the superintendent of Ouachita Parish Schools, but the school systems lawyer, Elmer Noah, told me that the letter was not a school board document and that the school system didnt possess it. I object to your characterization of the document as a public record, he said.
...
From the governor who signed the law to the teachers who implement the policy, everyone recognizes this is about creationism. I told Sen. Appel that I wanted to work with the Senate Education Committee to investigate what was being taught in Louisiana. I would support that, he said. Im working on obtaining copies of Ouachitas and Centrals curricula and more emails. Im doing my part. The Senate Education Committee will consider a new bill to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act on Wednesday. I look forward to the legislators doing their part.
Science needs more advocates like Phil and Zack, shame on people who don't understand how important this is.
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Louisiana: Burning Science at the Stake (Original Post)
beam me up scottie
May 2015
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bvf
(6,604 posts)1. K&R.
My heart goes out to Louisiana students exposed to this crap. "Teach the controversy." What a load.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)2. I taught biology and science,
and I would never teach creationism. They could not make me do it. I am sure that they would fire me if I worked there.
I can't figure out why Zack can't fight this legally, since it is unconstitutional to mix Christian religion into the curriculum of public schools.
edhopper
(34,810 posts)3. These idiotic red states
are showing us Darwin in action.
They are all at the bottom of the list in most economic and social criteria.
DetlefK
(16,455 posts)4. "You want me to explain evolution to someone who gets his biology-lessons from Pokemon?"
That would have been my answer to the question if E. coli evolves into humans.