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Posted at the risk of being crucified or banned... (Original Post) Binkie The Clown May 2015 OP
I suppose this wouldn't last long in GD DavidDvorkin May 2015 #1
The old saying is "The devil will quote the Bible to his own ends." Binkie The Clown May 2015 #2
The Horseshoe Theory in action. onager May 2015 #6
Its really very telling about muslim culture. Promethean May 2015 #3
Don't worry, we don't do crucifixions in this group, mr blur May 2015 #4
Willing to post a text summary... NeoGreen May 2015 #5
Muslim student, member of MSA (Muslim Student Alliance)... trotsky May 2015 #8
Eeek... very chilling... NeoGreen May 2015 #9
some posters here try to do this sort of thing Lordquinton May 2015 #13
But what about edhopper May 2015 #7
The bad ones aren't TRUE Muslims DavidDvorkin May 2015 #10
More to the point, she DID support the bad ones. n/t Binkie The Clown May 2015 #11
Another example of why religion is not warm and fuzzy. Curmudgeoness May 2015 #12
Ugh. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #14
She seemed deadly serious. Arugula Latte May 2015 #15
Anyone else catch Whorowitz on "Bullshit?" onager May 2015 #16
I was first exposed to his nonsense when he was pushing for "Academic Bill of Rights" Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #17

DavidDvorkin

(19,890 posts)
1. I suppose this wouldn't last long in GD
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:04 AM
May 2015

It would be locked. But if it lasted, I'd be very interested to see the discussion. Given the way DU has evolved (or devolved) recently, I suspect there would be lots of support for that student and condemnation of the professor, sad to say.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
2. The old saying is "The devil will quote the Bible to his own ends."
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:20 AM
May 2015

IMHO Truly dangerous enemies of democracy and freedom are taking cover behind "political correctness" and using it to discourage others from exposing their beliefs, or criticizing their true aims.

And that applies to the Christian Right as well.

onager

(9,356 posts)
6. The Horseshoe Theory in action.
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:24 AM
May 2015

Theorizes that the Far Right and Far Left aren't on opposite ends of a linear political spectrum. Instead they're located at each end of a horseshoe, and often greatly resemble each other. Especially in their authoritarian attempts to shut down free speech etc.

I'm personally starting to agree with that theory more and more. Especially as I get called into so many DU juries where someone Alerts because "that post hurt my fee-fees" or "I needed a Trigger Warning."

In fact, my current personal policy is to NEVER hide a post in what I see as free-speech cases. At this point, I'm so annoyed, I'd probably vote to Leave a post that advocated punching puppies.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

Promethean

(468 posts)
3. Its really very telling about muslim culture.
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:17 AM
May 2015

The speaker even narrowed it down for her. He said "I am a jew, the leader of Hezbollah has said he wants my people to gather in Israel so he doesn't have to hunt globally to kill us all, are you for or against him?" she answered "For." He literally got her to publicly support genocide.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
4. Don't worry, we don't do crucifixions in this group,
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:32 AM
May 2015

He was right and she was incredibly arrogant, self-righteous and just plain stupid.

NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
5. Willing to post a text summary...
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:15 AM
May 2015

... for those of us who don't have YouTube privileges while hunting for our filthy lucre?

I want to know if I should start gathering kindling for the pyre (since we apparently don't do crucifixions around here).



trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. Muslim student, member of MSA (Muslim Student Alliance)...
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:47 AM
May 2015

asks Horowitz to clarify why he links MSA with terrorists. He makes his point by asking her to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah. She refuses.

There's an even more gasp-worthy moment near the end, he says the leader of Hezbollah hopes that all Jews will gather in Israel, so he doesn't have "hunt (them) down" globally. And then asks her: "FOR it or AGAINST it?"

She replies: "For it."

Chilling.

NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
9. Eeek... very chilling...
Fri May 22, 2015, 10:31 AM
May 2015

...so I guess I will be gathering some kindling.

...sorry Binkie, messenger and all that, you'll understand, right?
So, just stand right here while we tie you to this post.
Unless you prefer to opt for The Wheel?

Plus, crucifixion is a doddle...





(posted without proofing, so I hope it is the right one)

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
13. some posters here try to do this sort of thing
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:54 PM
May 2015

But when you corner them they just writhe and wriggle, then pretend you're the one not answering their question.

edhopper

(34,810 posts)
7. But what about
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:44 AM
May 2015

all those great daycare centers?


I guess she is one of the majority peace loving Muslims who don't support the very, very few bad Muslims.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
12. Another example of why religion is not warm and fuzzy.
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:33 PM
May 2015

The professor did not answer her question---he forced her to answer it herself, and I loved how he did that.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
14. Ugh.
Fri May 22, 2015, 03:49 PM
May 2015

I guess I now know the answer to the question: "What would someone have to say to make David Horowitz the second-biggest asshole in the room".

I really hope she wasn't serious.

onager

(9,356 posts)
16. Anyone else catch Whorowitz on "Bullshit?"
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:40 PM
May 2015

Not the usual bullshit, of which he is full. But the Penn & Teller show "Bullshit" on Showtime.

That's the episode that turned me right off the show. I had watched every episode, with some major eye-rolling when the Libertarian propaganda showed up. But after that one I pretty much gave up.

The topic was "Liberal Indoctrination In Colleges" and Whorowitz was at his absolute slimiest.

The show was completely one-sided, with the looniest examples of liberal "indoctrination" carefully cherry-picked.

And naturally, no mention of conservative schools like Claremont, Pepperdine or good old Bob Jones University.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. I was first exposed to his nonsense when he was pushing for "Academic Bill of Rights"
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:18 AM
May 2015

By which he meant that no conservative should ever suffer their opinions being subjected to the rigor of academic debate.

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