Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumEgyptian Cleric OK With Atheists - Just Not In Egypt
Filed under "Religion Of Peace Strikes Again." Found this at My Secret Atheist Blog, which looks pretty interesting. First time I've seen that blog.
Here's some revealed wisdom from Khaled al-Gindhi. An Egyptian Muslim cleric who's perfectly OK with Egyptian atheists having human rights...as long as they don't try to live in Egypt.
How can we argue with this sort of inclusive, theologically sophisticated logic?
What we need are not polite sheiks, but someone to knock some sense into them...
We are a people of believers, whether Christian or Muslim. We have an age-old belief in God. We are the most ancient believing people in history. It's in our DNA.
If you (atheists) don't like the fact we are believers, go find yourself another nation. Stay away from us. Such blatant atheism constitutes an attack on the fundamentals of society...
We must not allow any affront to religion.
I bet he'd be very popular in some DU groups.
http://www.mysecretatheistblog.com/2015/05/egyptian-cleric-is-okay-with-atheists.html
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Stop it, you're burnin' mah virgin ears!
(I can still hear a childhood friend saying that, in a Scarlett O'Hara accent.)
Tobin S.
(10,420 posts)I like your avatar.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)cdogzilla
(48 posts)Egyptians are not "a people of believers," there are (incredibly brave) non-believers and secularists in Egypt, of course. He's an example of why it's often the case you can substitute "repressive" for "believing" to get at what believers who think there's no place for non-believers in a society are really proud of.
Tobin S.
(10,420 posts)And welcome to the group.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Happy to be here.
Oops, wrong welcome - oh well.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)RussBLib
(9,666 posts)among others. What a prick.
Donia is sporting a new tattoo.
Another article that I cannot find now tried to insist Donia wasn't expressing atheism. After all, "My heart's feud is with God" suggests she believes in God too, just isn't too happy with his ... choices? Right?
Proclaim you're an atheist in Egypt and you could get years in prison.
from the link above:
Earlier this year, a 21-year-old student who declared his atheism on Facebook was arrested by Egyptian authorities. The student, Karim Ashraf Mohammed Al-Banna, was sentenced to three years in prison.
Interesting name. Hassan Al-Banna was the founder of the original Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in 1928. He was executed for trying to overthrow the Nasser regime in the 1950s.
But his youngest brother, Gamel Al-Banna, was a famous Egyptian liberal, trade-unionist, and lifelong advocate for separation of mosque and state. He died in January 2013, aged 93.
Gamel had some fascinating ideas about Islam. From his Wikipedia entry: