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onager

(9,356 posts)
Sat May 23, 2015, 08:45 AM May 2015

Egyptian Cleric OK With Atheists - Just Not In Egypt

Filed under "Religion Of Peace Strikes Again." Found this at My Secret Atheist Blog, which looks pretty interesting. First time I've seen that blog.

Here's some revealed wisdom from Khaled al-Gindhi. An Egyptian Muslim cleric who's perfectly OK with Egyptian atheists having human rights...as long as they don't try to live in Egypt.

How can we argue with this sort of inclusive, theologically sophisticated logic?

It was unfortunate that (atheists) were allowed to appear in the media. They say: "God does not exist. The Prophet is like ISIS" and other baseless, nauseating things, that we, unfortunately, heard.

What we need are not polite sheiks, but someone to knock some sense into them...

We are a people of believers, whether Christian or Muslim. We have an age-old belief in God. We are the most ancient believing people in history. It's in our DNA.

If you (atheists) don't like the fact we are believers, go find yourself another nation. Stay away from us. Such blatant atheism constitutes an attack on the fundamentals of society...

We must not allow any affront to religion.

I bet he'd be very popular in some DU groups.

http://www.mysecretatheistblog.com/2015/05/egyptian-cleric-is-okay-with-atheists.html
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Egyptian Cleric OK With Atheists - Just Not In Egypt (Original Post) onager May 2015 OP
"that we, unfortunately, heard." SusanCalvin May 2015 #1
Welcome to the group, Susan. Tobin S. May 2015 #4
Thanks - see below. nt SusanCalvin May 2015 #8
Khaled al-Gindhi doesn't understand DNA, or even his own country. cdogzilla May 2015 #2
Welcome to DU! Tobin S. May 2015 #5
Thanks for the welcome! SusanCalvin May 2015 #7
This takes NIMBY to a whole new level. nt Curmudgeoness May 2015 #3
I guess Khaled isn't too thrilled with Donia Massoud RussBLib May 2015 #6
Al-Banna? onager May 2015 #9

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
1. "that we, unfortunately, heard."
Sat May 23, 2015, 08:54 AM
May 2015

Stop it, you're burnin' mah virgin ears!

(I can still hear a childhood friend saying that, in a Scarlett O'Hara accent.)

cdogzilla

(48 posts)
2. Khaled al-Gindhi doesn't understand DNA, or even his own country.
Sat May 23, 2015, 09:46 AM
May 2015

Egyptians are not "a people of believers," there are (incredibly brave) non-believers and secularists in Egypt, of course. He's an example of why it's often the case you can substitute "repressive" for "believing" to get at what believers who think there's no place for non-believers in a society are really proud of.

RussBLib

(9,666 posts)
6. I guess Khaled isn't too thrilled with Donia Massoud
Sat May 23, 2015, 06:12 PM
May 2015

among others. What a prick.

Donia is sporting a new tattoo.

Another article that I cannot find now tried to insist Donia wasn't expressing atheism. After all, "My heart's feud is with God" suggests she believes in God too, just isn't too happy with his ... choices? Right?

Proclaim you're an atheist in Egypt and you could get years in prison.

from the link above:

Earlier this year, a 21-year-old student who declared his atheism on Facebook was arrested by Egyptian authorities. The student, Karim Ashraf Mohammed Al-Banna, was sentenced to three years in prison.

onager

(9,356 posts)
9. Al-Banna?
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:21 AM
May 2015

Interesting name. Hassan Al-Banna was the founder of the original Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in 1928. He was executed for trying to overthrow the Nasser regime in the 1950s.

But his youngest brother, Gamel Al-Banna, was a famous Egyptian liberal, trade-unionist, and lifelong advocate for separation of mosque and state. He died in January 2013, aged 93.

Gamel had some fascinating ideas about Islam. From his Wikipedia entry:

Gamal al-Banna was a strict egalitarian: Islam gives women and men the same rights and duties, and a good Muslim regards all human beings as equal, no matter what their religion is. As for the role of women in Islam, al-Banna claimed to see no reason why a Muslim woman could not take over the role of imam (female: imama, i.e. leader) in the prayer salat.
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