at the Chuckle Hut on route 9 near the old mall .

You know it's coming and if the last three election seasons are any indication, the unintentional comedians in the clown car will be full of win!

I saw it in the movie Wadjda

Woman are not allowed to touch the Koran during these times of sadness.

The bible isn't any better:

Leviticus 15:19: 'Whenever a woman has her menstrual period, she will remain in a state of menstrual pollution for seven days.'

From the Brick Testament:

Leviticus 15:19

'Anyone who touches her will be unclean until evening.'

Same shit. More elaborate rituals including Hefsek taharah.

Like after the Hefsek taharah, she gets to go for a Mikvah...a ritual bath that cleanses her and makes her pure again to sleep with her husband. During menstruation she can't lie in the same bed as he, so she sleeps on a hard pallet on the floor.

4 days a month. Oy.

Look, I'm sick of hearing about misogynist Muslims, when these whack job Orthodox are just as anti-chick. My other favorite thing they do is sit the women behind a barrier in Temple, like they need to cage us wild thangs. Because Yaweh knows we can't be distracting all these scholarly Yeshiva boys with our Jezebellian lady parts! I think Judaism is the original philosophy to blame women for men's lack of sexual control--starting with Eve. Unfortunately, the idea has caught on far too well.

So for full disclosure, I know what I know cuz these crazies are my ancestors, I'm 2 generations removed from the Shtetl. Super-glad I was born in a era where I can be a feminist and an atheist.

there are attempts to introduce feminist alternatives, but what is the point?

These are the guys who think Mona Lisa is smiling because she's just discovered she's pregnant.

Women know that little smile is because she's just discovered that she isn't.

Stupid asses!

not her uptight abusive husband.

A good roll in the hay without any retribution from her innards? Now that's worth a smile!

Those guys really got around.

A LOT of leather in this show, and I ain't complaining!

It's an HISTORICAL novel so one might want to, y'know, evoke the actual period instead of Lord of the Rings. And it's a good thing they are labeled because you wouldn't be able to tell who is who otherwise. Who can tell which is the portly vain Porthos? The very religious, but womanizing dandy, Aramis? The drunken with a shameful past Athos?

The definitive film of Dumas' classic is the 1973 version with....well just about every star from the 70's in it. It was split into two films (you have to see "The 3 Musketeers" and "The 4 Musketeers" to get the whole story.)...but the actors were only paid for 1 film.

Uh oh!

All the SAG rules changed because of the film(s).

I love Richard Lester films! (I love how Louis XIII's court is a big bore, the food is awful and nothing works)

And Yvonne Blake's costumes are perfection (can you tell who is who just by the clothes?)




...grungy when called for...eleborate when called for....

the all white and silver fancy dress ball!







The black and gold outdoor ceremony at the end of the 1st film!

Amazing real period details like the wired petal collar Geraldine Chaplin wears...




There's just no reason to fool with any other version.

And the other costumes are better, especially the Queen's.

The series is meant to be fun as well as dramatic, they definitely take a lot of liberties but this hard core lover of Dumas' novels enjoys it.


That's beautiful work, thanks for posting those pics.

That's great!


But the costume designer still could do it right and it would still be fun. I mean, the Richard Lester film is definitely fun and also dramatic..... and looks right too!

Had forgotten all it contained. Though i did find a dvd of the stage production of the Pirates of Penzance with Kevin Klien and group, so that's a treat.

Yes! With Linda Ronstadt....right?..... and Angela Lansbury.


Where would we be without Joseph Papp?

I grew up with the movie adaptation, so it's weird seeing it on stage. (On film. On stage on film... somehow fitting)

But I love all four, fun show - was sad to see Peter Capaldi go but Cardinal Richelieu couldn't live forever.

Of course Capaldi went on to bigger and better things, I can't wait for the new season of Doctor Who.

as always.

When Fay Dunaway seduces Simon Ward...she's sitting on the bed in her corset and bumroll...

The corsets of the period have a "busk"...which is a wide rigid piece of wood or bone that slips in a pocket at the center front of the corset to keep it flat and rigid. (Raquel Welch wouldn't have one.... so her costumes are by someone else, sans busk)

Anyway, the Duke slides Milady's busk out of her coast and tosses it over his shoulder.


Love it!.



(Uh oh....costume history 101)
Busks could get very elaborate....carved with filigree out of ivory and stuff like that. Later, in the 1700's, they became narrower and guys would carve them out of boxwood with hearts and the initials of their girlfriend and give them as intimate gifts.

I should find a pic.... Here are some scrimshaw ones:



(I didn't know Skinner collected obscure period intimate apparel!)

Here's a later wooden one with hearts and initials

Not bad.... they really are lovely. But they are totally cosplay. A mix of a lot of different periods and fantasy. And that's OK because they obviously are keeping that look and feel consistent. I'm sure it fits the style of the show better than period accuracy. I haven't seen it. I'll have to check it out. It does look like fun.

My major complaint was the lack of differentiation between the 4 main characters. They really were wearing variations on the same thing.

and I still never know which one is which. But that doesn't matter because my daughter is keenly aware of who is who and I never lack for an answer to the question "Which one was that?" (A question that I ask an average of twice per episode)


But yeah, the scenery is beautiful and the show is fun and speaking as one who dabbles in leatherwork, I am pretty fascinated by all the leather they wear. I've been known to pause to get a closer look at construction and tooling.

Leather is a common material in the Renaissance. Many a period doublet is leather.

Here's a great painting of a Spanish tailor (cutting fabric you'll see) in a leather doublet with little pinks all over it.



On "Last of the Mohicans" we made some elk leather 1750's coats.... which were amazing. I wanted one. My friend Linda made Daniel Day Lewis' leather shirt(s). They were out of thin soft chamois. So beautiful! They have this period decoration at the top of the sleeves we found in a book. You take a 1" wide strip of the leather long enough to go around the sleeve, fold it in half lengthwise and make even little snips along the folded edge about 1/4th of an inch (so there's about 1/4th " uncut) when you unfold it you have all these 1/2" horizontal slits running down the strip. Now you sew the strip flat to the sleeve and then with stitches you pinch one to two slits together in the middle...or at one edge and then the other..... there are several variations.

You can see them at the armseye....

I've often wondered aloud if anything I was seeing was authentic. It looks pretty real as far as leather goes but I was never sure about design. But, it looks cool as hell in slow motion when they're fighting! lol.

Those examples from LotM are great - that must have been a wayyyy cool experience. I want to make some leather clothes but that's a whole 'nother couple levels above my skill-set at the moment. But I'm gonna get there!

Ditto... and I've made full Elizabethan court gowns and stuff! But leather is not fabric. And with any material one is making up something in (leather, fabric....wood, metal, resin!) one must learn what it will and won't do. I've made things (gauntlets, scabbards) out of leather but not a garment.

But my heart wants what it wants.

That explains hillarys "tough mother" campaign.

And Hillary has no fucking idea. A real "tough" mother is one who has to raise her children while struggling to make ends meet.

When men go off on what it's really about.

I'm stealing it.

if Gawd wanted you to understand it, HE would have called it femensturation. Thankfully HE wisely gave us this Rabbi and Glenn to make it clear you.

English is such a sexist language, but I guess if it was good enough for Jesus...

Rabbi Lapdog sex-splains:

The good Lord created men with an infinite capacity to produce seed at almost any age...

And rational humans created the vasectomy. Which nips that problem in the bud.

I've never understood the male weirdness about menstruation. When I was still in elementary school, my mother sat me down and explained all that. WIth a warning that if she ever heard of me laughing/mocking about any "accidents," I would seriously regret it.

Your mom is fierce.

I like that!

I think it was my wife that finally cleared up the details for me. Mom's talk consisted of telling my stepfather to hand me a cartoon book called "Where Did I Come From". He did and added, ever-so-wisely, "Umm, don't get caught with a girl - it could be embarrassing".


Not much later I did, and I wasn't really. We hadn't gotten very far. Got caught by her mom after school. 10 minutes later would have been WAY more embarrassing.


By the time I was old enough to be getting proper talks, mom and stepfather were way deep into fundamentalist baptist dogma. Another one of the groups very practiced at properly brainwashing women and children into submissiveness.

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Instead we're the ones who suffer.

And I'm sure when they hear themselves they think they're brilliant.

Group hug!

The "mens" prefix has to do with "month".

Any time a male doctor says "This will cure your cramps", he's lying. At least in my case. This included birth control pills and surgery.

Fortunately there is one REALLY good thing about getting older: YAY MENOPAUSE!!

Even PMS is really women having a sad because we're not as awesome as they are.

Complete and utter morons.

I say that with all seriousness and humility. I'm 51 years old and I know for fact that I still have all kinds of fucked up ideas on the way shit works with regards to women simply because I was raised to believe women were there to help and support almighty me. I'm honestly grateful for forums like this and people like you and I hope I never stop learning from y'all.

At least since I left the cult, I've learned to sometimes recognize when something ain't right.

Present company excluded!



Any guy brave enough to post in this thread deserves credit.

And you deserve even more for telling your story.

If he believes his own bullshit, I quake for their psychological development.

If it's Beck I wouldn't worry about his daughters, they'll get to meet many intelligent women who will set them straight. They will realize Dad's a whack job and stop listening to him.

If it's the Rabbi's girls, I do feel for them. Two more victims of an oppressive patriarchal religion.

...... from men who spent no time with women. I'm surprised they can even recognize one.

They are doing everything in their power to keep that dinosaur alive.

the Glenn Becks of the world explaining gods gifts to women....what a tool


i am reminded of this idiocy....

I would love to put it up on a huge billboard here in buy-bull country.

And so what about those women who do NOT want to get pregnant but are not using birth control pills? Wouldn't the onset of a period bring joy (and relief)?

I think I understand that the monthly bleeding while on the pills is similar to, but not really, menstrual blood.

I admit I am an incompletely educated white male.

His material is getting tired .

Oh no, there goes another one! NOOOooooooo!

Every sperm is sacred. This why all men weep after masterbation. All the dead babies they just murdered.

Of courrrrse this is true because i made it up and it's now in print.

So if anyone goes against this belief, they are going against God Himself.

has no understanding of the biology of reproduction but that appears to be a common problem with conservative religious types. What an asshat!