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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:33 AM Sep 2015

Christian Parents Angry That Their Kids Will Learn About Islam in School

Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:00 PM - Edit history (2)

Christian Parents Angry That Their Kids Will Learn About Islam in School

If you’re in seventh grade, the Tennessee Board of Education says your social studies class must include discussion about what Islam teaches, how it spread throughout world history, and how Muslims have contributed to mathematics, art, literature, etc. Pretty basic stuff.

But a Christian group plans to hold a silent protest outside Vance Middle School in the city of Bristol today, because they don’t want their children to be indoctrinated in any of this “education” bullshit.




“The protest will be a silent Christian protest with signs and a banner, we hope to have at least 100 people show up,” Emily Kausch, who’s planning to attend, wrote in an email to the Bristol Herald Courier.
The organizer is parent Patty Kinkead, who said she is “sort of the representative for Tennessee Against Common Core in this area.” She said she removed her fourth-grade son from the Bristol Tennessee school system because of Common Core.

“My son did go to Bristol Tennessee Schools last year and then I pulled him out to home-school him,” Kinkead said Wednesday. “I’m involved with Tennessee Against Common Core. I want to actively educate people about what Common Core is and some of the parts of Common Core that are most offensive. One of the most offensive parts is the Islam content that is with Common Core.”


Common Core sets standards. It doesn’t dictate curriculum. You’d think someone vocally opposed to it would know that. But Kinkead doesn’t exactly strike me as someone who puts much thought into this issue. It’s Islam, therefore it’s evil.

What sort of protest signs will her group have, I wonder, to warn parents against the scourge of — wait for it — learning about people with different beliefs, especially when those beliefs have had a serious impact throughout history?

Is it even possible to understand world history without talking about what Islam teaches? Forget the middle school’s curriculum. I’d love to see what she uses at home.




To answer the question about what sort of protest signs they had here are some pics from a local article:












And here is a comment from an obviously well informed and totally rational Christian parent:


Betty Clouse

Carol Leonard Don't you call her a liar! You are the liar what are you a evil troll paid by the Common Core idiots or just plain stupid and ignorant!! If anyone knows the truth about Common Core she does moron. I myself have read filty books that they put in school for kids to read it's like porn and I've read some of it and it's disgusting. Also as Karen has said Islam is NOT A RELIGION they push the Quran in school. Not much is mentioned about God or Jesus but they spend 3 or 4 weeks talking about Islam and the Quaran. GO BACK AND READ UP ON IT BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR!! You are so wrong saying anyone is a liar about the evil Common Core and Islam. They both are evil! Islam wants all non jihad believers Dead per their Quaran do you not get it. Nope you have no brain to think with you have been brain washed so pitiful!!



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Christian Parents Angry That Their Kids Will Learn About Islam in School (Original Post) beam me up scottie Sep 2015 OP
Typical RW bigots advocating ignorance Renew Deal Sep 2015 #1
These are the same people who blame atheists for ruining America. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #3
Dumb and dumber Cartoonist Sep 2015 #2
I wonder what Betty thinks of cartoons... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #4
I see the conflict between Christianity and Islam to be a race to the bottom of stupidity. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #9
Thick as a brick. trotsky Sep 2015 #5
Thank you for the opportunity to post something wonderful to ease the pain: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #6
"I may make you feel but I can't make you think" progressoid Sep 2015 #12
Missed a chance to see them in Vermont back in the 90's and I still regret it.. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #13
Gotta love that 'Mein Gott Uber Alles' crowd JackInGreen Sep 2015 #7
They are dangerously delusional. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14
Given the increasing militancy JackInGreen Sep 2015 #18
Betty's pretty busy in the comments section over there. bvf Sep 2015 #8
Lol! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #15
Creation Museum road trip? bvf Sep 2015 #26
But it's educational! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #27
just plain stupid and ignorant... mountain grammy Sep 2015 #10
If they get their way back to the dark ages. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #16
If they're unlucky JackInGreen Sep 2015 #19
Ignorance is bliss. Curmudgeoness Sep 2015 #11
I don't know if we should be glad that they're home schooling their kids beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #17
Well, I know one thing. Curmudgeoness Sep 2015 #24
Say hello to the next generation of tea party talibornagains. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #25
Wow nil desperandum Sep 2015 #20
! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #21
My Nonsensical Mythology can beat up your Nonsensical Mythology! Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #22
Lmao! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #23
These people are fucking stupid on a whole new level. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #28
Welcome to the bible belt. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #29
this was led by and made up of Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #30
Well of course! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #32
I don't disagree with them on that final point Lordquinton Sep 2015 #34
Maybe they are afraid they will find how much they have in common with their Islamic counterparts. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2015 #31
Nah, that would require too much thought. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #33
Here's the almost exact wording of my high school syllabi: Nevernose Sep 2015 #35
Kids can handle it, the parents not so much. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #36
Ironically, I've had to provide "safe space" for Muslim students Nevernose Sep 2015 #37
Lol! Yeah we're an evil bunch. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #38

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
3. These are the same people who blame atheists for ruining America.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:50 AM
Sep 2015

Because we kicked Jeebus out of school.

They're not just ignorant they're hypocrites who want to force kids to learn their bigoted religious beliefs in public school.

Cartoonist

(7,531 posts)
2. Dumb and dumber
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:45 AM
Sep 2015

As an atheist, I see the conflict between Christianity and Islam to be a race to the bottom of stupidity.

I'm pulling my kid out of school because he might learn something.

We execute people for not believing in imaginary beings.

And I'm supposed to respect these idiots.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
9. I see the conflict between Christianity and Islam to be a race to the bottom of stupidity.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:03 AM
Sep 2015

Don't forget the Jews!


Abrahamic religions are really the lamest. Abrahamic "philosophy"... that Good vs Evil thing, is so sophomoric. They are all worshiping the same imaginary god.

I lump Islam, Judaism and Christianity into Abrahamism. Those are just the 3 main sects of that ignorant, ancient fairytale. It should be taught that way, not as 3 different religions.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
18. Given the increasing militancy
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:29 AM
Sep 2015

As they realize that no, this isn't Jesusland, and yes, their day as the dominant religious domestic paradigm I'd over, ignoring "ya'll quaeda" isn't an option.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
8. Betty's pretty busy in the comments section over there.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:30 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)

Charitable of you to include one her more cogent offerings here.

Oh, and a happy International Literacy Day to all!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
27. But it's educational!
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:14 PM
Sep 2015

Well hopefully with internet access at their fingertips it will be harder to keep all of these kids brainwashed.

They can keep them out of those filty (Betty's word) school libraries but good luck blocking teh interwebs.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
16. If they get their way back to the dark ages.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:35 AM
Sep 2015

When uppity educated people either shut up or got burned at the stake.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
19. If they're unlucky
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:31 AM
Sep 2015

The rest of us will treat em like the Picts treated missionaries. *adjusts a head or two on spikes* Decoration in waiting.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
11. Ignorance is bliss.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sep 2015

Or so they say.

I guess that these parents are afraid that little Johnny might convert to Islam if he learns anything about any other religion.

And speaking of ignorance, that final comment you posted tells me all I need to know. Oy vey, I guess that the punctuation lessons taught in grade school were too far over her head.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
32. Well of course!
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:39 PM
Sep 2015

They had to pull their special snowflakes out of the grip of the Muslim loving secularists, Common Core is the work of the Devil!



Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
34. I don't disagree with them on that final point
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:02 AM
Sep 2015

but their exta exactia est mentality where they are just using words that the education department has used for policies and making it up to manufacture outrage (where have I heard that sort of thing before?) instead of the real reasons it's not good (Usual sort of thing, test the kids until they drop) just make them look stupid, and other's job much harder.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
33. Nah, that would require too much thought.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:40 PM
Sep 2015

It's easier to grab the torches and pitchforks and have someone point you at the castle.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
35. Here's the almost exact wording of my high school syllabi:
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

And my letter home, and a PowerPoint:

We will learn about religions that may be unfamiliar to you. I know you're thinking, "But isn't it illegal to teach about religion in a public school?"

No, it's not. It's illegal to teach you what you should believe, but perfectly acceptable -- and smart in the 21st century -- to teach you about billions of other people's beliefs.

For instance: if I say "Devout Muslims are supposed to pray facing Mecca five times a day," that's perfectly legal. If I say, "Okay everybody, take out your prayer rugs so we can all pray," I'd get fired. And I'd deserve to get fired.

So far I haven't had a problem, but teaching about religions sometimes require me to educate people before I start educating them, if you get my meaning.

This lady's probably just crazy, though.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
36. Kids can handle it, the parents not so much.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:04 PM
Sep 2015

No one is going to get converted in your classroom.

"This lady's probably just crazy, though."

Word.


Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
37. Ironically, I've had to provide "safe space" for Muslim students
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:31 PM
Sep 2015

A few Nation of Islam kids needed a place to pray that they perceived as safe, plus permission to get out of class for a few minutes at noon (good kids, not troublemakers at all).

So who did they come to? Someone who was willing to go to bat for them with other teachers and administrators. You know, the complete atheist, obviously. (To be completely fair, they knew that I'm good friends with a devout Muslim and very close relative of Elijah Muhammad)

Their religion is bullshit, as are all religions. But a child's beliefs? Priceless, and something I'm willing to die for.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
38. Lol! Yeah we're an evil bunch.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:37 PM
Sep 2015

Kids are great, they haven't learned to hate yet. Wouldn't it be something if they never did?

Imagine.




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