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Oh, boy, I see where this is headed. (Original Post) PeaceNikki Oct 2015 OP
Yep DavidDvorkin Oct 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #4
Yep. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #2
Yep it's already begun. trotsky Oct 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #3
Teenage eye witnesses under extreme stress make such reliable witnesses... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #6
I read the book "columbine" by Dave Cullen - HIGHLY recommended Heddi Oct 2015 #7
Seconded. Very good book. onager Oct 2015 #9
"...but miraculously recovered after spending 97 minutes in Heaven." CrispyQ Oct 2015 #13
All the news stories are about targeting Christians now. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #8
Okay, so when xians are the victims, NOW it's about religion. Iggo Oct 2015 #10
How many xians would have to be frogmarch Oct 2015 #11
It wouldn't take me long to decipher that pattern. Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #12
He was religious. Gore1FL Oct 2015 #14
once again the "news" fills 21 hours with 3 minutes of info olddots Oct 2015 #15

DavidDvorkin

(19,890 posts)
1. Yep
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:13 PM
Oct 2015

And even if this report is debunked -- as I'm expecting it will be -- it will live on, just as the Columbine story did.

Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #1)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
2. Yep.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:53 AM
Oct 2015

And it will be used to prove there's a war on Christians too.

Fox news will have some help in their efforts to spin this tragedy.



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AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. Teenage eye witnesses under extreme stress make such reliable witnesses...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:36 AM
Oct 2015

..... don't they?


If a nonChristian says this happened, then I will be a little less skeptical.

How many non-Christians could there be in this area?


Could the shooter have done this (if he did) JUST to cause trouble?


Religion is not what this incident is about.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
7. I read the book "columbine" by Dave Cullen - HIGHLY recommended
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:03 PM
Oct 2015

It is thoroughly researched and debunks so many of the claims and tales we've been led to believe about the whole thing -- that they were loners (not true), that they targeted Christians (not true). It was like the media set up this narrative and never diverted from it, even with surviving victims tried to correct the record.

Ah, but someone has to be a martyr. It's not bad enough that people were shot..no. CHRISTIANS WERE SHOT IN THE HEAD OMG and nonchristians were shot in the head big fucking deal who cares (is the attitude of some here)

onager

(9,356 posts)
9. Seconded. Very good book.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015

Cullen really got down in the weeds and ferreted out the truth about Columbine.

I figured the same insta-myths would start up about Oregon.

Next we'll be hearing that a Xian was shot but miraculously recovered after spending 97 minutes in Heaven. Which is just like we all heard it was in Sunday School. Book/movie deals to follow.

frogmarch

(12,226 posts)
11. How many xians would have to be
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:38 AM
Oct 2015

shot in the head and non-xians in the knee before the other xians there decided to not say they were xians?

As someone on that thread said, the xian persecution story could be easily veriified by checking with the survivors.

Gore1FL

(21,884 posts)
14. He was religious.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 04:52 PM
Oct 2015

He said in a letter he would be 'Welcomed in Hell and embraced by the devil.' Supposedly had a manifesto with "666" on it.

I have yet to find an atheist who believes in "hell," "The Devil," or the power of "666."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257921/Oregon-college-gunman-kicked-Army-2008-emerges-police-seven-weapons-home-six-guns-school-including-assault-rifle-THREE-pistols-used-massacre.html#ixzz3njUUjx9h



 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
15. once again the "news" fills 21 hours with 3 minutes of info
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 05:54 PM
Oct 2015

Toss in some jebus shit to sex up the story , can we get a hero angle and some shots of the candlelight ceremony ?

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