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mr blur

(7,753 posts)
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:36 AM Dec 2015

Blank Frank says that even vermin can go to heaven.

Last edited Sat Dec 26, 2015, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Like me, you will all no doubt be thrilled to hear that we can finally meet up in Heaven

In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-don-t-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html

The Cognitive Dissonance is strong with this one . . . not to mention the sheer condescension and arrogance of the 80-Year-Old Virgin presuming that we give a fuck whether or not we are welcome in his Fairy Tale Zombieland.



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Blank Frank says that even vermin can go to heaven. (Original Post) mr blur Dec 2015 OP
God's mercy has no limits... uriel1972 Dec 2015 #1
that God’s mercy has no limits AlbertCat Dec 2015 #16
"...God's mercy has no limits.." deucemagnet Dec 2015 #2
Is there a way that I can get an exclusion? Curmudgeoness Dec 2015 #3
"...his progressive reputation..."??? onager Dec 2015 #4
I think this is a lot better edhopper Dec 2015 #5
It bugs me a lot Brainstormy Dec 2015 #7
It bugs me... AlbertCat Dec 2015 #17
well sure edhopper Dec 2015 #20
Four things... uriel1972 Dec 2015 #6
Really? Then why bother with his sexist, bigoted church? progressoid Dec 2015 #8
because it is a very large and powerful sexist, bigoted church... uriel1972 Dec 2015 #10
just itching to get it's hands on our minds and bodies, AlbertCat Dec 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author goldent Dec 2015 #9
The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #11
I'd rather laugh with the sinners awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #12
Billy Joel? uriel1972 Dec 2015 #13
You bet... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #15
Billy Joel? How could you? AlbertCat Dec 2015 #19
I'll take strippers and beer volcanos over clouds and ugly cherubs. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #14

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
1. God's mercy has no limits...
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:21 PM
Dec 2015

Tell that to children and babies dying of disease and starvation.
Oh they do, don't they?
All will be right in heaven, they say.

deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
2. "...God's mercy has no limits.."
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

What about if you're in a same sex marriage or if you've had an abortion? Thanks, but no thanks, Frank.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. Is there a way that I can get an exclusion?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:48 PM
Dec 2015

The mere thought of spending eternity with some of the nastiest people on the planet, who are pushing their religion on others while they commit all the sins listed in the Bible in a single week!!! I have watched all the sanctimonious preachers on TV telling me how to find god, or how Jesus can cure someone in a wheelchair. And I have watched them found out for all their sins. Unbearable.

onager

(9,356 posts)
4. "...his progressive reputation..."???
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:36 AM
Dec 2015


It was hard reading past that line, I was laughing so much. When they really try, nobody does comedy better than the Vatican and its apologists.

Frankenweenie is just trying to do a careful tightrope walk, between the Church conservatives on one side and what passes for Catholic progressives on the other.

And just as he has done before, he will waffle on this if some Sophisticated Theologian like Mel Gibson criticizes him. "Er, uh, no, I only meant the GOOD Interfaithy non-believers. Not the vermin. God thinks they suck and He can't wait to toss them into hellfire, along with the Commies, gays and women who had abortions."

edhopper

(34,904 posts)
5. I think this is a lot better
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 11:00 AM
Dec 2015

than most of the Fundies who tell us we will burn in Hell just for not believing.

I am not a fan of Frank, but this doesn't bug me.

Brainstormy

(2,429 posts)
7. It bugs me a lot
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

almost as much as when the sanctimonious head of the richest corporation on earth lectures his sheeple on the evils of consumerism.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
17. It bugs me...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 11:00 AM
Dec 2015

.... that adults believe in such malarkey.... from heaven existing to the "authority" of a Pope.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
6. Four things...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 11:30 AM
Dec 2015

He presumes that we have to be forgiven for something.
Secondly, he presumes he has the right to tell us we will be forgiven.
Thirdly, he tells us who don't believe in sin (and therefore cannot), have sinned
And lastly "God's Mercy"...
In total it makes my blood boil.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
10. because it is a very large and powerful sexist, bigoted church...
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 12:39 PM
Dec 2015

just itching to get it's hands on our minds and bodies, sometimes literally, as well as figuratively.

Response to mr blur (Original post)

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
11. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

Funny. My conscience led me here:

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. I'll take strippers and beer volcanos over clouds and ugly cherubs.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:49 PM
Dec 2015

And the company will be much better too, yarrrrrrr.


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