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Brainstormy

(2,428 posts) Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:27 AM Feb 2016

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Biblical Gender Roles

If, as The Atheist Pig suggests, you can stifle your gag reflex, check out this Christian marriage advice blog. There's some debate in my A&A meetup group about whether or not it's even for real. I think it's legit.

http://biblicalgenderroles.com/2016/02/21/how-to-help-women-learn-their-place/

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Biblical Gender Roles (Original Post) Brainstormy Feb 2016 OP

I clicked on read a sentence then clicked away in revulsion... uriel1972 Feb 2016 #1

That site could be a lot more concise. trotsky Feb 2016 #2

Yeah, they're serious. What man wouldn't love to have a smiling, compliant domestic slave Warpy Feb 2016 #3

how can they not see the damage this religious BS does to families? RussBLib Feb 2016 #4

That's the thing, for many believers, this is the way it's supposed to be. cleanhippie Feb 2016 #5

Yeeeeeesh. JoeyT Feb 2016 #6

shares these truths with other young girls she attends school with. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #14

Yuck. progressoid Feb 2016 #7

Only made it as far as "her speech" mountain grammy Feb 2016 #8

It's just the usual patriarchal bullshit that these dickheads spout. mr blur Feb 2016 #9

Ughhh.... NeoGreen Feb 2016 #10

I don't need any help to learn my place. Curmudgeoness Feb 2016 #11

If I ever used the term "your place" to my wife awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #16

You have a really nice wife. Curmudgeoness Feb 2016 #17

That reminds me... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #19

Probably legit. Not far from the SoB official word. onager Feb 2016 #12

"Peace comes thru living the way our creator intended us to (live)." AlbertCat Feb 2016 #13

Reading the comments was terrifying... tiger_lily99 Feb 2016 #15

Sure. They agree with everything Curmudgeoness Feb 2016 #18

Barf kdmorris Feb 2016 #20

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)

1. I clicked on read a sentence then clicked away in revulsion...

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:44 AM

Feb 2016

My gag reflex is strong.. oh well.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

2. That site could be a lot more concise.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:53 AM

Feb 2016

"How to help women learn their place"
Teach girls that they can do and be and love anything/anyone they want, and they don't have to obey any religious dogma that states otherwise.

There, that was easy.

What a revolting piece of the Internet though. Yikes.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)

3. Yeah, they're serious. What man wouldn't love to have a smiling, compliant domestic slave

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:55 AM

Feb 2016

to cater to his every whim? Since they're patriarchs, they never consider said slave to have any thoughts or feelings of her own, she's just interesting livestock, there to put clean socks in the top drawer and dinner on the table, only specifically noticed if she does something wrong.

Honestly, I wish these assholes would catch a clue and save up for Real Dolls. A Real Doll never talks back (or at all), never gains an ounce, and is always "ready." She's perfect for the average patriarch and it would get him out of the dating scene, a gift to all living women.

RussBLib

(9,666 posts)

4. how can they not see the damage this religious BS does to families?

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:58 AM

Feb 2016

and especially women?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)

5. That's the thing, for many believers, this is the way it's supposed to be.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:19 PM

Feb 2016

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)

6. Yeeeeeesh.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:07 PM

Feb 2016

My teenage daughter has been asking me for some time to put together a guide with Scripture passages that she can commit to memory as she shares these truths with other young girls she attends school with.

Congratulations dude, you've turned your daughter into "that kid". If the school ever needs to evacuate because there's a fire, they won't need an alarm, they'll just send your kid in on one end and the other kids will trample each other to get away from her.

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)

14. shares these truths with other young girls she attends school with.

Reply to JoeyT (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:39 AM

Feb 2016

I hope they are learning better English at that school.

progressoid

(50,747 posts)

7. Yuck.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:21 PM

Feb 2016

And that's what they call family values.

mountain grammy

(27,273 posts)

8. Only made it as far as "her speech"

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:35 PM

Feb 2016

the first one.

mr blur

(7,753 posts)

9. It's just the usual patriarchal bullshit that these dickheads spout.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:16 PM

Feb 2016

Gleaned from their beloved patriarchal bullshit-filled Wholly Babble.

NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)

10. Ughhh....

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:27 PM

Feb 2016

...I could not read that.

I feel defiled in some way.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)

11. I don't need any help to learn my place.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 08:06 PM

Feb 2016

My place is wherever I want to be, and screw the men who think otherwise.

Sorry that I didn't even click the link, so I can't be more specific. But I can thank this sort of thing for making me the atheist/anti-theist that I am today....it all started with women's roles.

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)

16. If I ever used the term "your place" to my wife

Reply to Curmudgeoness (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:30 PM

Feb 2016

she might just dig a hole in the backyard while I was at work

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)

17. You have a really nice wife.

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:41 PM

Feb 2016

If it were me, I wouldn't be the one digging that hole. Why should I do all that work when I could force you to do it before you got the frying pan over the head.

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)

19. That reminds me...

Reply to Curmudgeoness (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:46 PM

Feb 2016

I own 3 cast iron skillets. I may need to hide them

onager

(9,356 posts)

12. Probably legit. Not far from the SoB official word.

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:57 AM

Feb 2016

Here's the "Family" part of the "Southern Baptist Faith & Message." The F&M is roughly the SoB version of dicta from the Pope etc. It's the official stance of the Southern Baptist Convention.

The F&M was first written in 1925, revised in 1963 and this new version was adopted in June 2000. When they felt the need to address a couple of...contemporary issues.

You can read the whole thing at the link:

XVIII. The Family

God has ordained the family as the foundational institution of human society. It is composed of persons related to one another by marriage, blood, or adoption.

Marriage is the uniting of one man and one woman in covenant commitment for a lifetime. It is God's unique gift to reveal the union between Christ and His church and to provide for the man and the woman in marriage the framework for intimate companionship, the channel of sexual expression according to biblical standards, and the means for procreation of the human race.

The husband and wife are of equal worth before God, since both are created in God's image. The marriage relationship models the way God relates to His people. A husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. He has the God-given responsibility to provide for, to protect, and to lead his family.

A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation.

Children, from the moment of conception, are a blessing and heritage from the Lord. Parents are to demonstrate to their children God's pattern for marriage. Parents are to teach their children spiritual and moral values and to lead them, through consistent lifestyle example and loving discipline, to make choices based on biblical truth. Children are to honor and obey their parents.

http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)

13. "Peace comes thru living the way our creator intended us to (live)."

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:37 AM

Feb 2016

So.... peace comes from being hunter-gatherer nomads?

tiger_lily99

(20 posts)

15. Reading the comments was terrifying...

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:37 PM

Feb 2016

Especially when I saw that many of them were women who completely agreed with everything listed.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)

18. Sure. They agree with everything

Reply to tiger_lily99 (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:43 PM

Feb 2016

until they really had to live that way. Most women who are posting online are not actually experiencing the abuses allowed in the Bye-bull.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)

20. Barf

Reply to Brainstormy (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:55 PM

Feb 2016

As one of those that they feel needs to "learn their place", fuck them.

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