Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumControversy Over Crosses on Proposed Villanova Bridge, being paid for by penndot.
Radnor Township last night approved a controversial pedestrian bridge planned for Villanovas campus.
At first, it seems like theres no reason for the bridge to be controversial. Its part of a $285 million expansion project for the University, and will be built over Lancaster Avenue. Its scheduled to finish in 2018.
Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/02/28/controversy-over-crosses-on-proposed-villanova-bridge/#A75eKVxM27iZ7r86.99
https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/28867-ffrf-protests-penn-funding-of-crosses-on-villanova-campus
Doreen
(11,686 posts)If you do not like them do not look at them. Personally from the drawing I think it looks nice. The only problem I would ever have with this type of thing is if those who want crosses tried to fight other religions on having their symbol on public spaces also. Just because I am not a Christian does not mean I do not think that there are pretty crosses. I have had friends that are Atheists and Agnostics and this would never had been a deal with them. For the ones I knew it was "live and let live" as long as the people were good to others.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)but not "them"? Why is it always "us" who have to give ground?
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Why is it wrong to legislate religious doctrine, but OK to use public money to erect religious symbols? Both violate the Establishment Clause. It's a distinction without a difference.
And frankly, I would argue this chickenshit "live and let live" crap only emboldens those leading the religious intrusion into secular institutions.
Heddi
(18,312 posts)Villanova is hardly an institution that is scraping to get by.
They can live and let live as much as they want with their own private funds.
Once my tax dollars (and yes, my tax dollars -- I still pay a percentage of my $$ to PA even though I live in FL) pay for it, it's not live and let live. It's a government funding of a religious institution's bridge
I'm glad your friends don't have an issue with the intrusion of religion into the public sphere. Take a look at the recent posts I've made in teh Religion group about the intrusion of Religion into public schools. GIve them an inch and they take 15 miles.
No thanks. Not on my dime.
Maybe they can hold a fucking bake sale like public schools in Philly have to do to get any kind of gov't money for expenses that isn't covered by the local/state budget. Oh but Villa-fucking-nova gets a goddamn bridge with pretty crosses. How twee.
Leaches, all of them.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)What if they wanted the design to include an Iron Maiden? Or a blade on a pendulum? Or a Rack? Or a Catherine wheel?
My point is, the cross is a torture device and if Christians want it there, then they want it there to promote their very brutal view of humans (that we all should be tortured forever although their god arranged to get himself tortured and thereby -- somehow -- let us off the hook).
The design, in abstract -- just two intersecting lines -- isn't the problem. The message is the problem.
mountain grammy
(27,273 posts)people would have little silver electric chairs hanging around their necks..
Yes, it's the message, and tax $$$ shouldn't be spent on a religious message.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)That is a non-starter. I shouldn't have to pay to have religion shoved down my throat.