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Croney

(4,923 posts)
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 05:53 PM Jan 2018

So. You prayed, and she died anyway.

Today my extended Southern Baptist family mourns the death of a 76-year-old cousin I may have met once but don’t remember. For a month, the prayer chains have rattled across my Facebook feed faster than I could delete and hide. God can work a miracle! God heeds prayer! I’m praying! We’re all praying! Prayers going up! Prayers! Prayers!

And, she died. Because God wanted to bring her home. God saw that she’d suffered enough. She is reunited with her loved ones. She is happy at the right hand of the Lord.

But if she had recovered, it would have been proof that prayer works.

How did so many people become such idiots?

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Voltaire2

(14,701 posts)
1. Witch dunking.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

If you drown: not a witch. If you don’t drown you get burned for being a witch.

Or as we stated this as kids: heads I win, tails you lose.

Croney

(4,923 posts)
6. Only by saying that God worked through them to bestow his miracle.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:07 PM
Jan 2018

But since they didn’t save her, it was God’s will because he wanted her Home. There is no way to argue with these people and I don’t, unless they try to force their insanity on me.

SCantiGOP

(14,238 posts)
7. I served on a Hospital Board years ago
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:40 PM
Jan 2018

A small rural hospital in the 80s, and we were told that the 80 year old doctor who headed the physicians group was refusing to ask for funds to buy a defibrillator for the ER. He said that he wasn’t going to “electrocute some patient and get sued” and that trying to revive someone like that was “an attempt to deny God’s will.”
The Chairman of the Board, who was a very religious man, was furious. He said this kind of attitude was why so many people distrusted religion. He said if he were in the process of dying he wanted a doctor who would “fight God every step of the way.” He even said he would be glad to have an atheist as his doctor if that’s what it took.
And we did buy the defibrillator.

Croney

(4,923 posts)
8. So, he didnt believe all medicine was an attempt to defy Gods will.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jan 2018

Just the medical innovations he didn’t understand. Sounds typical.

SCantiGOP

(14,238 posts)
9. He used the religion card
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jan 2018

But it was mainly that he was 50+ years out of Med School and didn’t want to have to learn anything new.

stopbush

(24,630 posts)
10. There is a direct relationship with people believing
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 08:19 PM
Jan 2018

the make believe of the Buybull and believing the alternative facts that Rs have peddled for decades.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
11. When a tornado hits one house and skips the next...
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jan 2018

the guy that it skipped says "God was watching out for me."

It makes me want to ask him if that means god had it in for his neighbor.

If you're going to give god the credit when someone survives then you'd better be prepared to give god the blame when someone else does not. It's that or hypocrisy.

rurallib

(63,196 posts)
12. so, if they truly believed in an afterlife what difference would it make if she lived or died?
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 09:01 PM
Jan 2018

praying for her to live then either admits they don't believe in an afterlife or they are selfish because they don't want to go through mourning.

Unless she was a total turd and they knew she was ticketed for hell........

Mariana

(15,096 posts)
18. That's the kind of question they just won't answer.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:32 PM
Jan 2018

Why pray for healing when Christians are dying? Don't they want to go to heaven?

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
13. We're a countable number of generations removed from flinging poop
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 09:44 PM
Jan 2018

And that number is smaller for some of us than others.

It's still early. You may be expecting too much, sibling.

BigmanPigman

(52,241 posts)
14. The same reason people believe the "flat earth theory"...
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 10:28 PM
Jan 2018

"prove it otherwise" or "have you seen it, do you have evidence to support YOUR crazy theory?" Not worth my time and energy trying to explain anything to these "believers" for even a nanosecond.

mountain grammy

(27,271 posts)
15. I can honestly say
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jan 2018

there wasn't this much praying going on 50 years ago.. maybe because more people went to church and got it out of their system. maybe it's social media. But damn, it's obnoxious and dumb.

Brainstormy

(2,428 posts)
16. funny you should mention that
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:04 AM
Jan 2018

my friends (old friends, literally and literally) were just talking the other day about the fact that when we were growing up it was not "fashionable" to even mention your religion. To ask, for example, one of the first questions one encounters today, "What church do you go to?" would have been considered crass and intrusive. Even Emily Post (does anyone remember her?) made a point of saying that religion was a private matter and not appropriate for most social contexts. Things have really changed.

Mariana

(15,096 posts)
19. It's still that way where I live now.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:43 PM
Jan 2018

You don't ask people about their religion, and you don't invite them to your church unless they ask about it first. It just isn't done.

Solly Mack

(92,766 posts)
17. When my husband was in Iraq
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:25 AM
Jan 2018

people talked of those dying and calling it "God's will".

I said that if anyone were to say that to me I would shoot them in the gut and as they lay dying I would ask - Was this also God's will?

I don't own a gun, btw.

Still, the looks I got. LMAO





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