Atheists & Agnostics

defacto7

(13,609 posts) Wed Dec 25, 2019, 05:26 PM Dec 2019

A little holiday confusion...

Whose virgin birth are we supposed to celebrate today? There are so many:

Horus
Ethiopia-Sudan, 3,000 BCE
Zarathustra
Iran 1,000 BCE
Krishna
India, 900 BCE
Hercules
Greece, 800 BCE
Mithra
Persia, 600 BCE
Buddha
Nepal , 563 BCE
Dionysus
Greece, 500 BCE
Thammuz
Babylonia, 400 BCE
Hermes
Greece, 200 BCE
Adonis
Phoenicia, 200 BCE
And the one in 2 CE ...you know.

But then there are deities from non-virgin births on Dec. 25th:

Ela-Gabal
Syrian Sun God
Sol Invictus
Roman Sun God

Hmm... which one to choose?

.....Merry Mythmus!

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A little holiday confusion... (Original Post) defacto7 Dec 2019 OP

All of the above - covering my bases. alittlelark Dec 2019 #1

You know that liberal democracies are a myth too. Myth is a human way to be. applegrove Dec 2019 #2

Yeah, but wouldn't it be nice to organize around science, defacto7 Dec 2019 #6

Yes, that is the hope of all of us here at the DU and beyond. applegrove Dec 2019 #8

That's an equivocation fallacy, at best. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #11

one more dweller Dec 2019 #3

Wow, now I'm really confused... defacto7 Dec 2019 #4

Argh shadowmayor Dec 2019 #5

hard to believe anyone believes in "virgin birth" Skittles Dec 2019 #7

I don't see why it's interesting defacto7 Dec 2019 #9

it is just plain misogyny Skittles Dec 2019 #10

Agreed defacto7 Dec 2019 #12

alittlelark

(18,912 posts)

1. All of the above - covering my bases.

Reply to defacto7 (Original post)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 05:34 PM

Dec 2019

applegrove

(123,112 posts)

2. You know that liberal democracies are a myth too. Myth is a human way to be.

Reply to defacto7 (Original post)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 05:35 PM

Dec 2019

It is what we organize around.

defacto7

(13,609 posts)

6. Yeah, but wouldn't it be nice to organize around science,

Reply to applegrove (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 10:15 PM

Dec 2019

creativity, and preservation of life on the planet? I would.

applegrove

(123,112 posts)

8. Yes, that is the hope of all of us here at the DU and beyond.

Reply to defacto7 (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 11:51 PM

Dec 2019

Voltaire2

(14,701 posts)

11. That's an equivocation fallacy, at best.

Reply to applegrove (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 08:16 AM

Dec 2019

1. a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural events.

2.a widely held but false belief or idea.

If liberal democracies are a myth, which is debatable, they are using the 2nd definition. The virgin birth nonsense is a myth using the 1st definition. Equating them is a fallacy.

dweller

(25,043 posts)

3. one more

Reply to defacto7 (Original post)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 05:48 PM

Dec 2019

my homunculus

✌🏼

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus

defacto7

(13,609 posts)

4. Wow, now I'm really confused...

Reply to dweller (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 06:03 PM

Dec 2019

That the sperm of a man be putrefied by itself in a sealed cucurbit for forty days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a horse's womb, or at least so long that it comes to life and moves itself, and stirs, which is easily observed. After this time, it will look somewhat like a man, but transparent, without a body. If, after this, it be fed wisely with the Arcanum of human blood, and be nourished for up to forty weeks, and be kept in the even heat of the horse's womb, a living human child grows therefrom, with all its members like another child, which is born of a woman, but much smaller.

But do we worship it?

Maybe I should try to make one.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)

5. Argh

Reply to defacto7 (Original post)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 06:43 PM

Dec 2019

We goes with the Flying Spaghetti Monster at times like these!

Skittles

(159,240 posts)

7. hard to believe anyone believes in "virgin birth"

Reply to defacto7 (Original post)

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 10:34 PM

Dec 2019

utterly ridiculous

defacto7

(13,609 posts)

9. I don't see why it's interesting

Reply to Skittles (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 12:49 AM

Dec 2019

or even necessary as a mythical story plot. I suppose it's to make one's deity seem more than human but it's a pretty dull and historically overused shtick.

Skittles

(159,240 posts)

10. it is just plain misogyny

Reply to defacto7 (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 01:52 AM

Dec 2019

can't have a woman tainted by *HORRORS*: sex

defacto7

(13,609 posts)

12. Agreed

Reply to Skittles (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:13 AM

Dec 2019

The gods must have a "clean" vessel not a defiled one. (puke)

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