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Brainstormy

(2,421 posts)
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:36 PM Dec 2021

Anybody else gritting their teeth

at the confirmation bias and sheer lunacy coming from the "faithful" over the tornado tragedies? I just heart a pastor whose church was totally demolished say, in all seriousness, "God is in control."

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Anybody else gritting their teeth (Original Post) Brainstormy Dec 2021 OP
it's always ridiculous, and it is pure arrogance Skittles Dec 2021 #1
So.... If God's in control, and your church was just destroyed, doesn't that tell you that God RockRaven Dec 2021 #2
.......... Warpy Dec 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #3
Yes. SharonClark Dec 2021 #4
Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2021 #6
God is in control? Bev54 Dec 2021 #5
He smited them over their arrogance and letting 800k die relayerbob Dec 2021 #7
To show you how brainwashed the people are, Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #8
It's his will. dem4decades Dec 2021 #9
While I do like it when I am able to find good in bad things, Gore1FL Dec 2021 #10
I think it was the Sci-fi writer Robert Heinlein SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #11
God IS in control... IF you believe in an all-powerful God. keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #12
If he/she is all powerful, Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #15
CBR - Cash Based Religion. keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #16
If god is in control EmmaLee E Dec 2021 #19
It's that conundrum stuff, eh? keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #21
Never expect rationality from religious people. n/t spike jones Dec 2021 #14
Absolutely! Duppers Dec 2021 #17
Descartes proved with logic that God exists. keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #20
I think Auschwitz disproved the theory of God. n/t spike jones Dec 2021 #22
it never fails RussBLib Dec 2021 #18

RockRaven

(16,128 posts)
2. So.... If God's in control, and your church was just destroyed, doesn't that tell you that God
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:38 PM
Dec 2021

doesn't want you operating a church?

Response to Brainstormy (Original post)

SharonClark

(10,279 posts)
4. Yes.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:44 PM
Dec 2021

A survivor claimed she survived because god was watching out for her. I guess he was too busy to watch out for those who lost their lives.

Bev54

(11,881 posts)
5. God is in control?
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:46 PM
Dec 2021

According to Alex Jones it is Biden who is in control by geo-engineering the tornados. How do they worship a god that destroys so many lives? Religion is a sickness.

relayerbob

(6,958 posts)
7. He smited them over their arrogance and letting 800k die
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:53 PM
Dec 2021

But they never seem to notice while condemning everyone else

Mr.Bill

(24,739 posts)
8. To show you how brainwashed the people are,
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:00 PM
Dec 2021

I have seen numerous interviews with Kentucky citizens standing in fron of a pile of rubble that was their house saying they are "blessed" and "God is good" because he saved them. That's some control they have over people when you can make them think that losing everything is a blessing.

It's like George Carlin used to say, the greatest salesmen in the world, people that sell millions of dollars worth of goods, people who close international deals worth billions of dollars, are in awe of the Clergy.

Gore1FL

(21,774 posts)
10. While I do like it when I am able to find good in bad things,
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:11 PM
Dec 2021

I am often amazed at the philosophical gymnastics believers put themselves to find good where there really isn't any.

SCantiGOP

(14,155 posts)
11. I think it was the Sci-fi writer Robert Heinlein
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:41 PM
Dec 2021

who first said it: the God of most religions acts exactly like a spoiled, psychotic child.

Many years ago there was an horrific airplane crash in Michigan. Everyone dead, until they found an infant who had been thrown from the plane still strapped in the child seat and practically unharmed.
The verdict: How could anyone argue that the child’s survival didn’t prove that there was a god?

keithbvadu2

(39,829 posts)
12. God IS in control... IF you believe in an all-powerful God.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 09:05 PM
Dec 2021

God IS in control... IF you believe in an all-powerful God.

We had a discussion on this.

God knows all - past, present, and the future.

God has the power to change whatever he wants.

Whatever evil/bad happens has been approved by God.

IF you believe in an all-powerful God.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218317588

Mr.Bill

(24,739 posts)
15. If he/she is all powerful,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:18 AM
Dec 2021

how come their organization constantly needs money from me?

God is all powerful, except he's just not good with money, he needs your help there?

keithbvadu2

(39,829 posts)
16. CBR - Cash Based Religion.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:23 AM
Dec 2021

CBR - Cash Based Religion.

Judas was an early, modern-day, conservative disciple.

Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ.

Franklin Graham, Jim Bakker, Pat Robertson, and their ilk get millions of dollars repeatedly for selling Christ.

Judas was a fool for doing a one-time sale.

EmmaLee E

(192 posts)
19. If god is in control
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:26 AM
Dec 2021

S/He is not a kind, nor loving, god.

If God is kind and loving,
S/He is not powerful.

keithbvadu2

(39,829 posts)
20. Descartes proved with logic that God exists.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:59 AM
Dec 2021

Descartes proved with logic that God exists. The church rejected that because it negated the need for faith.

RussBLib

(9,649 posts)
18. it never fails
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 03:11 PM
Dec 2021

your neighbor is killed, you survived, and you give thanks to god for saving you

as someone earlier in this thread said, THAT is some kind of control right there.

smh

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