Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience

HuckleB

(35,773 posts) Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:49 PM Sep 2014

As state GMO labeling laws are proposed, critics wonder about logistics and costs

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/09/24/as-state-gmo-labeling-laws-are-proposed-critics-wonder-about-logistics-and-costs/

This is a really fair piece on the matter, and it boggles my mind to see so many at DU fail to see that, by ignoring the science of the matter, they are promoting food insecurity for many people.

I won't post this on a more populated forum because, well, I suspect it would be sent to jury and deleted, and I would be banned, once and for all. Anyway...

If you live in Oregon or Colorado and care about science, well, right now, the voters are about to spit in your face.

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As state GMO labeling laws are proposed, critics wonder about logistics and costs (Original Post) HuckleB Sep 2014 OP

Reminds me of Kentucky and the creationists. Archae Sep 2014 #1

The majority loves pizza, too! HuckleB Sep 2014 #2

There are far more believers in flying saucers than there are creationists. Archae Sep 2014 #4

Funny how they want to filter or restrict information for our own good. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3

What are you talking about? HuckleB Sep 2014 #5

That's from the article in your OP. Concerns about people not buying products out of fear. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #6

In other words, you don't think public health measures matter? HuckleB Sep 2014 #7

wtf w hmm? I believe in full disclosure of contents, sources, mfg techniques, GMOs, etc. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #8

So you think GMO labeling is logical? HuckleB Sep 2014 #9

Yes, knowledge is power. Sorry that our organic companies are using the government this way. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #10

GMO labeling gives you zero knowledge. HuckleB Sep 2014 #11

Archae

(46,831 posts)

1. Reminds me of Kentucky and the creationists.

Reply to HuckleB (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:01 PM

Sep 2014

They get tax breaks because "The majority wants it..."

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

2. The majority loves pizza, too!

Reply to Archae (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:04 PM

Sep 2014

I want a tax break on every pizza I buy!!

Archae

(46,831 posts)

4. There are far more believers in flying saucers than there are creationists.

Reply to HuckleB (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:25 PM

Sep 2014

Should places like the Roswell "museum" get big tax breaks?

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

3. Funny how they want to filter or restrict information for our own good.

Reply to HuckleB (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:24 PM

Sep 2014

Heavens to Betsy, if we knew the fat content of baby food we might....

Better to just keep us ignorant?

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

5. What are you talking about?

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:18 PM

Sep 2014

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

6. That's from the article in your OP. Concerns about people not buying products out of fear.

Reply to HuckleB (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:00 AM

Sep 2014

They specifically used baby food and fat content as an example in which a parent might overreact and not buy something the infant needs for lack of understanding that kids need fat while developing.

In Connecticut, Beau Kjerulf Greer, professor of nutrition at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield pointed out:

A “right to know” argument is a common tenet of pro-GMO labeling arguments, but it is often in the interest of public health that people are protected from their own acquired misinformation. Fat grams are not listed on baby foods because parents may restrict their infant’s fat intake for perceived health effects, not understanding the necessity of high amounts of fat in the infant diet. And if the rationale for labeling is transparency for transparency’s sake, why not direct our limited resources to labeling arsenic levels in rice, mercury levels in fish or other contamination that actually has documented potential for harm? And do we really want to increase food costs for the poor via labeling because the upper middle class currently enjoys playing the role of armchair nutritionist?

HuckleB

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7. In other words, you don't think public health measures matter?

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:20 PM

Sep 2014

Especially in an age when NGOs are spreading misinformation about food at a nauseating rate. Hmm.

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

8. wtf w hmm? I believe in full disclosure of contents, sources, mfg techniques, GMOs, etc.

Reply to HuckleB (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:31 PM

Sep 2014

I think the FDA should require full disclosure and truthful labeling.

So, yeah, I think public health measures matter and I think people and organizations that think they're doing a public service by fighting disclosure "for our own good" are full of shit.

I am not fighting you, I'm just stating my position.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

9. So you think GMO labeling is logical?

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:02 AM

Sep 2014

How is that?

And what if babies end up in the hospital because of a mandatory label? (Granted, combined with NGO stupidity?)

Life ain't black and white. And that means what's right is often gray.

BTW, you do realize that the GMO labeling nonsense is all about organic companies using the government to help them foment the fear they've been working on so that their profits continue to increase, right?

You really think that's ok?

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

10. Yes, knowledge is power. Sorry that our organic companies are using the government this way.

Reply to HuckleB (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:54 AM

Sep 2014

Damn government!

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

11. GMO labeling gives you zero knowledge.

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:39 PM

Sep 2014

It's about organic companies using the government to increase profits.

That's despicable. Especially because it will increase food prices, especially for those who can least afford it.

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