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Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience

HuckleB

(35,773 posts) Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:17 PM Aug 2015

Marin School District Goes GMO-Free, Fails Basic Science

http://groundedparents.com/2015/08/24/marin-school-district-goes-gmo-free-fails-basic-science/

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I don’t want to diminish the importance of a nutritious, fresh and delicious school lunch. The pilot school — Bayside MLK — is located in Marin City, where many residents live below the poverty line and 93% of students qualify for free and reduced government subsidized lunches. I applaud Conscious Kitchen for serving its students fresh seasonal meals.

Unfortunately, that food comes with a giant serving of false propaganda — that a healthy diet must be an organic, GMO-free one.

Conscious Kitchen’s agenda relies on fear and chemophobia. “Students everywhere are vulnerable to pesticide residues and unsafe environmental toxins,” argues Judi Shils, executive director of Conscious Kitchen’s parent organization Turning Green.

Actually, pesticide residues are present in both conventional and organic produce (at perfectly safe levels, by the way). Conscious Kitchen also questions the safety of GMO foods, even though the overwhelming evidence shows that these foods are safe.

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Marin School District Goes GMO-Free, Fails Basic Science (Original Post) HuckleB Aug 2015 OP

Not a big fan of the Huck ... Trajan Aug 2015 #1

"If GMOs are so safe..." Silent3 Aug 2015 #2

... Trajan Sep 2015 #5

First, that source is crap. HuckleB Sep 2015 #8

Way to miss the point Silent3 Sep 2015 #13

Yaeh, me too. I want to know if my food has any pixie dust on it. progressoid Aug 2015 #3

Pixie dust is imaginary Trajan Sep 2015 #6

GMO threat is Imaginary too. progressoid Sep 2015 #11

And what would those labels tell you, exactly? HuckleB Sep 2015 #4

I make things personal. . Trajan Sep 2015 #7

So you find it insulting for people to bring the actual science to the table. HuckleB Sep 2015 #9

How about those labels? HuckleB Sep 2015 #10

BTW, you might want to look at what the EPA is actually recommending. HuckleB Sep 2015 #12

Senator McCaskill Stands Up For Science. HuckleB Sep 2015 #14

Why ‘GMO-free’ is a marketing ploy you shouldn’t fall for HuckleB Sep 2015 #15

Trajan

(19,089 posts)

1. Not a big fan of the Huck ...

Reply to HuckleB (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:15 PM

Aug 2015

I would just as soon get the labels, thanks ...

Silent3

(15,909 posts)

2. "If GMOs are so safe..."

Reply to Trajan (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:45 PM

Aug 2015

Trajan

(19,089 posts)

5. ...

Reply to Silent3 (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:04 PM

Sep 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112790641

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

8. First, that source is crap.

Reply to Trajan (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:11 PM

Sep 2015

Second, such issues come up with all types of plants, regardless of the breeding method. Second, your source posts this piece today, but it sources various unrelated links that are months and more old. It tries to connect very different topics into its preconceived propaganda. It's really, really obvious.

http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2013/05/superweed/

And for a science-based discussion of rootworms: https://www.facebook.com/search/str/GMO%20Skepti-Forum%20rootworm/keywords_top

Silent3

(15,909 posts)

13. Way to miss the point

Reply to Trajan (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:19 AM

Sep 2015

Others have addressed the quality of the info you linked to, so I won't bother with that.

The point I'm making is about anti-GMO people trying to pretend that a label like "Contains GMOs" is purely informative, and that putting such labels in place is nothing but a "right to know" issue.

It's clear that such labels will be perceived as warning labels, as indicative of danger, as the government conceding to and promoting the idea the GMOs are dangerous.

So OF COURSE people selling GMO products don't want such labels to be required. Regardless of whether GMOs are bad or not (which is a stupid way of looking at the issue anyway -- each and every different GMO needs to be evaluated independently because there's no reason any one GMO would share any common risks with another) such labels make them look bad.

If that's your goal, to make all GMOs look bad, at least admit it. Don't play a disingenuous game of pretending it's nothing more than "providing information" so that consumers can make "informed decisions".

progressoid

(50,757 posts)

3. Yaeh, me too. I want to know if my food has any pixie dust on it.

Reply to Trajan (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:43 PM

Aug 2015

Trajan

(19,089 posts)

6. Pixie dust is imaginary

Reply to progressoid (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:06 PM

Sep 2015

Kind of like GMOs having absolutely no unintended consequences, ever ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112790641

progressoid

(50,757 posts)

11. GMO threat is Imaginary too.

Reply to Trajan (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:40 PM

Sep 2015

As for your link, huckeB nicely summed up how lame that is.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

4. And what would those labels tell you, exactly?

Reply to Trajan (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 1, 2015, 09:18 AM

Sep 2015

And why do you not ask for labels on MBOs?

And why make things personal?

Trajan

(19,089 posts)

7. I make things personal. .

Reply to HuckleB (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:10 PM

Sep 2015

Because I have watched you and others SAVAGE anyone and everyone who disagree with you here ...

Someone disagrees? ... Insult them ... That is what I see here ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112790641

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

9. So you find it insulting for people to bring the actual science to the table.

Reply to Trajan (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:13 PM

Sep 2015

I find it insulting for people to repeatedly push debunked, anti-science posts. It's not only insulting, but it is unethical.

Your cherry picked bit from an anti-GMO source does not change reality. Your source is blaming GMOs for a problem that occurs with plants of all types, regardless of breeding technology. Second, your source posts this piece today, but it sources unrelated links that are months and more old. It tries to connect very different topics into its preconceived propaganda. It's really, really blatant, anti-science propaganda.

For an actual discussion of the rootworm "issue." https://www.facebook.com/search/str/GMO%20Skepti-Forum%20rootworm/keywords_top

Try to be honest, please.