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realmirage

(2,117 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:07 PM Dec 2016

Those who don't want to change the Party's approach are killing the left

Change nothing? Keep the same playbook? Ok, well we just lost and if you don't want to change anything, you'd better get real used to losing.

Blame Bernie's supporters and say fuck em? Ok, well good luck winning without them. Guess it's preferable to lose than to change anything to bring more people in.

Fuck the rust belt? Fuck whites people? Well you're going to need those votes if you ever want to win again.

It's a fact that if you don't change the strategy you just lost with, you're going to lose again. Believe that. Change nothing and prepare for 8 years of Trump.

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Those who don't want to change the Party's approach are killing the left (Original Post) realmirage Dec 2016 OP
Agreed. pangaia Dec 2016 #1
And change the strategy does not mean abandon the entire message. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #2
Exactly. Broaden the message, and reach out to realmirage Dec 2016 #7
maybe we need to follow the governor of louisiana JI7 Dec 2016 #3
Don't know much about that race. I'll realmirage Dec 2016 #8
They are not killing the left, they are killing themselves off. Rex Dec 2016 #4
I think we need everyone. What we realmirage Dec 2016 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #10
Einstein said, the definition of insanity is NRQ891 Dec 2016 #5
'Blame Bernie's supporters and say fuck em? Fuck the rust belt? Fuck whites people? ' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #6
What Left are they are killing it is burrowowl Dec 2016 #11
 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
7. Exactly. Broaden the message, and reach out to
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:27 PM
Dec 2016

rural people like we used to via strong unions, job protection, etc

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. They are not killing the left, they are killing themselves off.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:20 PM
Dec 2016

They don't have to change, just get out of the way now and let someone else lead.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
9. I think we need everyone. What we
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:30 PM
Dec 2016

don't need is large blocks of our base resisting improving our strategy. I agree with you on that

Response to Rex (Reply #4)

NRQ891

(217 posts)
5. Einstein said, the definition of insanity is
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:05 PM
Dec 2016

'Repeating a tired cliche, and expecting to sound clever and wise'

NRQ891

(217 posts)
6. 'Blame Bernie's supporters and say fuck em? Fuck the rust belt? Fuck whites people? '
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:09 PM
Dec 2016

there hasn't been a major political party created since the civil war. Countless multi-billion dollar companies have been created in the last 20 years. Trump beat those who out-spent him, and he broke almost all the rules

I still think the lynchpin of the Trump phenomenon, was the prospect of a 'Bush vs Clinton' race, early on. It threw both parties into a rabid 'anti-dynasty' mode. I really do think that if Jeb hadn't run, Hillary might have made it

if a populist party were created via social media, it could draw 1/4 of Democrats, 1/4 of Republicans, and 1/4 of independents overnight making it a peer player.

and if this party had the attitudes mentioned in the title of this post, it would be dead as a doornail, perhaps forever

burrowowl

(18,023 posts)
11. What Left are they are killing it is
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:52 AM
Dec 2016

the Center Right! There is no Left in the U$A. Maybe if the center right survives we can get a LEFT!

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