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DemocraticWing

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Guess they got bored with blaming white people NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #1
it's not bigoted to say a majority of whites voted for trump, when they did. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #2
It is bigoted to call them all racists, though, which is exactly what's been going on NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #4
those who voted for Trump either are racists themselves, or are tolerant of racism. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #5
So you know all of those voters personally to lump them all together then? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #14
No but i know they voted for someone who explicitly said racist things La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #15
Only the white people who voted to elect and openly racist candidate are accused of supporting bettyellen Dec 2016 #11
But that's down 11% from the mostly GenX voters who frazzled Dec 2016 #3
that was 5% than those that voted for President Obama. I am not one to make blanket still_one Dec 2016 #6
I think it's candidates job to win votes. David__77 Dec 2016 #7
Yes. Her campaign needed to pay more attention to economic inequality, as per this article. JudyM Dec 2016 #9
White millennial voters Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #8
If Hillary had chosen Sanders or Warren as her running mate, red dog 1 Dec 2016 #10
Yawn. n/t BlueStater Dec 2016 #16
In the end, Hillary's loss is on her, as every candidate who has run for president Autumn Dec 2016 #12
K&R True_Blue Dec 2016 #13
I blame the voters of the three states treestar Dec 2016 #17
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
1. Guess they got bored with blaming white people
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:19 PM
Dec 2016

Gotta love the bigotry towards groups and lumping people all together...and by the party that SUPPOSEDLY opposes that kind of thing.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
2. it's not bigoted to say a majority of whites voted for trump, when they did. nt
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:20 PM
Dec 2016
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
4. It is bigoted to call them all racists, though, which is exactly what's been going on
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:24 PM
Dec 2016

And now it looks like young people are going to be attacked next.

It's ignorant.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
5. those who voted for Trump either are racists themselves, or are tolerant of racism.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:31 PM
Dec 2016

that is also not a bigoted comment.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
14. So you know all of those voters personally to lump them all together then?
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 06:01 PM
Dec 2016

Since when has stereotyping an entire group in a negative light without even knowing them become acceptable and OK in the Democratic Party?

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
15. No but i know they voted for someone who explicitly said racist things
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 06:03 PM
Dec 2016

And they either ignored that or approved of it

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. Only the white people who voted to elect and openly racist candidate are accused of supporting
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:19 PM
Dec 2016

Bigotry. His two most well known campaign promises were to keep brown people out of the country.


How did these voters not know they were suppprting bigotry?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. But that's down 11% from the mostly GenX voters who
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:24 PM
Dec 2016

gave Obama 66% of the vote in 2008 (and 60% in 2012--influence of millennial generation?). Note that the Republican vote among young voters stayed approximately the same from 2008, 2010, and 2012. That means that Democratic-leaning millennials were just not voting that much.

Just saying. It DID play a factor.

still_one

(96,541 posts)
6. that was 5% than those that voted for President Obama. I am not one to make blanket
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:46 PM
Dec 2016

generalizations, because there were a lot of factors, the misreporting by the media that "Comey has reopened the email investigation", the double standard in coverage, where Hillary was held to a much higher standard, 47% of the eligible voters who refused to vote, the 2013 Supreme Court decision which allowed a key section of the voting rights act to be overturned, and opened the flood gates for 14 states to setup more restrictive voter requirements, long lines, voter IDs, and removing names from voter lists.

However, I believe, what did make a difference was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary, and either voted third party or didn't vote.

For those that were in that mind set, I can understand their rationalization, even though I don't agree with it, but what I cannot understand is why every Democrat running for Senate in the swing states against the establishment republican incumbent lost?

David__77

(23,870 posts)
7. I think it's candidates job to win votes.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:49 PM
Dec 2016

What's the point in blaming anyone? Formulate a platform and run a campaign. Win votes or lose them. One thing I know is Clinton failed to win. That's not blame - that's a fact.

JudyM

(29,517 posts)
9. Yes. Her campaign needed to pay more attention to economic inequality, as per this article.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:10 PM
Dec 2016

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
8. White millennial voters
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dec 2016

actually supported Trump according to exit polls 48-43, I believe.

There are latino, API, and black millennials, you know. They were the ones more likely to support Clinton.

red dog 1

(29,320 posts)
10. If Hillary had chosen Sanders or Warren as her running mate,
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:18 PM
Dec 2016

we would likely be talking about President-elect Clinton right now.

She received more than 9 million votes in the primaries.

Bernie Sanders received more than 6 million votes.

She won 28 states.

Sanders won 22 states.

She could have united the Democratic Party by choosing either Sanders or Sen. Warren as her running mate.

Instead, she "gave the finger" to the 6 million + Democrats who voted for Bernie Sanders by picking a ConservaDem from VA.

It's not the millennials fault she lost..it's her own fault!

K&R

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
16. Yawn. n/t
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 06:14 PM
Dec 2016

Autumn

(46,321 posts)
12. In the end, Hillary's loss is on her, as every candidate who has run for president
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:22 PM
Dec 2016

and lost is on them.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
13. K&R
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 04:49 PM
Dec 2016

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. I blame the voters of the three states
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 06:47 PM
Dec 2016

that put Donnie over the top. It's a coincidence that his voters lived in the right states.

They are probably white and yes, mostly not young people. They are more likely to be rural than not. They happened to live in the right states and get their way over that of the majority because of that. The EC allows this to happen.

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