2016 Postmortem

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts) Sat Dec 3, 2016, 07:53 PM Dec 2016

This came into my FB feed via The Hill: Green Party drops recount case in Pennsylvania (Is it true?)

This came into my FB feed via The Hill:

The Green Party is dropping its court case requesting a statewide recount of the election results in Pennsylvania.

The Associated Press reported on Saturday that the party said it could not come up with a $1 million bond payment required by Monday, when a hearing was scheduled.

A court order filed Saturday called the matter "closed" after it said that petitioners had filed to withdraw the case. The Green Party had questioned whether voting machines had been hacked or results manipulated.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/308650-green-party-drops-pennsylvania-recount-case

I have not seen this on the Jill Stein election recount website, nor anywhere else. I'm trying to verify this and wonder if any of you know if there is any truth to this.

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This came into my FB feed via The Hill: Green Party drops recount case in Pennsylvania (Is it true?) (Original Post) Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 OP

Followed by this from Palmer Report Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #1

"In fact her next step is..." EL34x4 Dec 2016 #5

Agreed...what else is she supposed to do? Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #6

Philly is only recounting 4% of their precincts. EL34x4 Dec 2016 #7

Apparently.... femmocrat Dec 2016 #2

What bothers me is the $1 million dollar bond. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #3

So, again another FB post both confirming that the strategy has changed. Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #4

What is your source for this strategy insight? Why will the precincts being recounted reduce the rzemanfl Dec 2016 #8

Sorry -- I didn't write it, just copied it from a FB feed Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #9

One too many Facebook references. Didn't register with me rzemanfl Dec 2016 #10

You might check out her "fireside" chat triron Dec 2016 #11

It's not showing as live on my FB feed yet... Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #12

I'm on the page but there's no video? flamingdem Dec 2016 #13

don't do facebook triron Dec 2016 #14

I had to scroll down flamingdem Dec 2016 #15

I watched it for about 5 minutes Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #16

The case for statewide recount dropped, but the recount continues... RealityChik Dec 2016 #17

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)

1. Followed by this from Palmer Report

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 07:56 PM

Dec 2016

No, the Pennsylvania recount effort isn’t “over.” Yes, the mainstream media is lying to you.

Since the recount effort in three states got underway last week, the major media have afforded it virtually no coverage. Even as the Wisconsin recount enters its third day and numerous inconsistencies are being documented, the mainstream media has remained silent. After the Michigan elections board approved the recount go-ahead, nary a peep. Now the major media outlets are finally talking about the Pennsylvania recount effort, but only to report that it’s now “over” – which is not the case.

What actually happened today is that in a desperate last ditch attempt at preventing the recount, the State of Pennsylvania suddenly invented a million dollar bond that third party candidate Jill Stein would have needed to immediately pay for.

-snip-

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/no-pennsylvania-recount-effort-isnt-yes-mainstream-media-lying/359/

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)

5. "In fact her next step is..."

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:06 PM

Dec 2016

"...to fight for precinct by precinct recounts in Pennsylvania until the vote totals have been sufficiently corrected and revised to drop Donald Trump’s lead in the state from the current 0.8% mark to the 0.5% mark, which in turn would trigger an automatic statewide recount under Pennsylvania state law."

Seriously?

This sounds like a herculean task and I just don't see it happening.

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)

6. Agreed...what else is she supposed to do?

Reply to EL34x4 (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:11 PM

Dec 2016

I suppose better than totally giving up. How's that Philly recount going?

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)

7. Philly is only recounting 4% of their precincts.

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:24 PM

Dec 2016

The massive 20,000+ vote jump that Hillary received yesterday came from mail-in ballots that were finally tallied and added to the totals, not recounts. That's it. AFAIK, there's nothing left to count.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)

2. Apparently....

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 07:56 PM

Dec 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512640750

Sux.

rzemanfl

(30,288 posts)

3. What bothers me is the $1 million dollar bond.

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 07:57 PM

Dec 2016

That isn't the same as posting a million in cash. I thought they had the money anyway....

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)

4. So, again another FB post both confirming that the strategy has changed.

Reply to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:00 PM

Dec 2016

She didn't drop the recount statewide. Please stop listening to the media. She was pressed with a higher bill and fell 1 million short. So what she is doing is filling recounts on certain precincts in PA that will get the lead down from .8% to .5%. That would bring an automatic statewide recount. Stein is having a press conference on Monday in front of Trump tower to inform everyone of her strategy.

rzemanfl

(30,288 posts)

8. What is your source for this strategy insight? Why will the precincts being recounted reduce the

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:39 PM

Dec 2016

Orange Peril's lead below half a percent?

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)

9. Sorry -- I didn't write it, just copied it from a FB feed

Reply to rzemanfl (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:45 PM

Dec 2016

But I think it came in from Palmer Report website.

rzemanfl

(30,288 posts)

10. One too many Facebook references. Didn't register with me

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:55 PM

Dec 2016

that you were talking about a second one, not the first. Sorry.

triron

(22,240 posts)

11. You might check out her "fireside" chat

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:06 PM

Dec 2016

just started.

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)

12. It's not showing as live on my FB feed yet...

Reply to triron (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:15 PM

Dec 2016

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

13. I'm on the page but there's no video?

Reply to triron (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:15 PM

Dec 2016

Is the live chat on her fb page?

triron

(22,240 posts)

14. don't do facebook

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:22 PM

Dec 2016

I found this : https://www.facebook.com/drjillstein

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

15. I had to scroll down

Reply to triron (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:39 PM

Dec 2016

that is facebook, btw

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)

16. I watched it for about 5 minutes

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:29 PM

Dec 2016

Did anyone else watch the entire "fireside chat"?

RealityChik

(382 posts)

17. The case for statewide recount dropped, but the recount continues...

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 12:57 AM

Dec 2016

The court case for a statewide recount in PA may have been dropped because of last minute fee gouges, but the recount continues. The strategy has changed but the outcome remains the same. The effort is now to obtain voluntary recounts by as many of PA's 1000+ wards to reduce Trump's lead from 0.8% down to 0.5%, which would trip a mandatory statewide recount. Considering Trump's lead was originally 1.2%, it's plausible that a narrowing of the lead down to 0.5% is no longer an insurmountable goal.

For the most up-to-date news on all the recounts, forget MSM. Instead try The Palmer Report:

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/jill-stein-county-automatic-pennsylvania-recount/360/

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