2016 Postmortem

flamingdem

(39,918 posts) Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:01 PM Dec 2016

Lawsuit filed to force Florida recount

Wow and just in the nick of time according to this tweet:

Andrea Chalupa ‏@AndreaChalupa 22h22 hours ago

Great news! With 10 minutes to spare before midnight deadline, a 300 page petition for a recount filed in Florida. #AuditTheVote #RecountFL

Yay! (I know, don't get too optimistic..)

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/lawsuit-officially-filed-to-force-florida-recount/339/

Yesterday a federally registered nonprofit election entity launched a fundraiser to cover the court costs of a lawsuit it intended to file in the name of forcing a statewide recount in the narrowly decided state of Florida. The attorney fees were fully crowdfunded within a matter of hours. And today the attorney in question announced that he has officially filed the lawsuit in question, creating at least some possibility that a Florida recount may happen.

Florida state law prohibits any candidate from requesting a recount, meaning that third party candidate Jill Stein cannot force a recount in the state even if she pays for the costs, as she’s doing in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. But this lawsuit is aimed at getting a judge to order a Florida recount, whether republican state officials want to do it or not.

Clint Curtis, the Florida attorney who has been hired to lead the legal charge in court, announced today via his official Facebook page that the election complaint is now indeed underway in the legal arena.

Donald Trump was officially named the winner in Florida, but by a razor thin margin, and only after Hillary Clinton had appeared to bank enough of an early vote lead in the state that it would have been all but mathematically insurmountable for Trump to have come back and won. If the courts do rule that a Florida recount must take place, and if the recount reveals that Clinton did get the most votes in the state, those electoral votes would be reassigned to clinton. Similar scenarios are playing out in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, with the fate of the election hanging in the balance.

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Lawsuit filed to force Florida recount (Original Post) flamingdem Dec 2016 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #1

We need this one to happen flamingdem Dec 2016 #3

That would be a miracle--I would love to see it because I think she'd win. nt MADem Dec 2016 #2

From the Clint Curtis FB page flamingdem Dec 2016 #4

Clint Curtis: "I have a project for as many of you as I can find to help." Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #17

Stunned, but in a good way. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #5

I hope so! flamingdem Dec 2016 #6

Yup. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #7

You can't smell victory, but you and I can murielm99 Dec 2016 #14

Oh the pure pleasure flamingdem Dec 2016 #21

I know many of us are financially tapped out with all the fundraising to fight the election results KewlKat Dec 2016 #8

Thanks, should this be posted elsewhere? flamingdem Dec 2016 #11

You might also crosspost it in Activism and in the Florida group. JudyM Dec 2016 #18

I'm donating Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #30

It's great that you can help out. Thank you! KewlKat Dec 2016 #38

Florida would have been the ballgame for Hills. Ligyron Dec 2016 #9

Clint Curtis... Wild. It's Old home week on the election fraud front. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #10

Remind me please? flamingdem Dec 2016 #12

Allow me to elucidate on this deep rabbit hole. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #13

Well, well flamingdem Dec 2016 #16

He knows what he's doing. Great to see him at the helm. Won't tolerate shenanigans. JudyM Dec 2016 #19

They need help - Floridians with voting complaints flamingdem Dec 2016 #20

Cool - we only lost Fla by 120,000 votes! Anything can happen now. jmg257 Dec 2016 #15

It's potentially 29 more electors, which could easily swing four more Hamiltons Dec.19. ancianita Dec 2016 #22

This one would do it flamingdem Dec 2016 #23

knr triron Dec 2016 #24

+1 flamingdem Dec 2016 #25

YES! YES! YES! Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Raster Dec 2016 #26

Make it so! Repubs in full panic mode according to this article flamingdem Dec 2016 #27

K'n'R ucrdem Dec 2016 #28

If this happens flamingdem Dec 2016 #29

Woah! woah! woah!!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #31

filed in a Circuit court California_Republic Dec 2016 #32

Welcome to DU. spooky3 Dec 2016 #33

The whole point was just to get on the docket. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #36

Great! mcar Dec 2016 #34

knr triron Dec 2016 #35

Hope springs eternal. jack69 Dec 2016 #37

yes triron Dec 2016 #39

Response to flamingdem (Original post)

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flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

3. We need this one to happen

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:07 PM

Dec 2016

If you live in Florida let me know and I'll send you info to help

MADem

(135,425 posts)

2. That would be a miracle--I would love to see it because I think she'd win. nt

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:06 PM

Dec 2016

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

4. From the Clint Curtis FB page

Reply to MADem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:09 PM

Dec 2016

More details on Florida:
I just got off the phone with Clint Curtis the atty who filed the motion for a recount last night in Tallahassee. It was a 549 page brief that included 3 plaintiffs. The court has 10 days to respond. The goal is to get a recount approved before the electors are allowed to vote on Dec 19th. In Florida there are basically 4 different grounds for a recount. The brief covers most, if not all of them. There would need to be bribery of an official, misconduct complaints like being turned away at the polls illegitimately, machine malfunction, evidence of hacking, etc... that could potentially effect the outcome of the race. We lost in Florida by 100,000 votes. If you are willing to help in this amazing endeavor, please join my group warriors for a better world, I have a project for as many of you as I can find to help.

Aimee in OKC

(160 posts)

17. Clint Curtis: "I have a project for as many of you as I can find to help."

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:24 PM

Dec 2016

It would be great if he can get this going.
* * * * * * *
Perhaps citizens could assist in a very different sort of vote counting. Florida uses a mix of paper ballots & DRE Touchscreens. The machines capture anonymous images of ballots as they are counted.

Get to the state map: https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/#year/2016/state/12

1. Scroll & click in turn on each machine to explore capabilities and security concerns.
2. Click on a county to get quick info on it alone.
3. To see a list of the machines by county, scroll down to the bottom left, select Florida & "SEARCH".

Determine what you want to investigate, get a notarized FOIA request for the anonymous images to the election officials. Take along a number of brand-new, in-their-wrappers flash drives to download the files, in case the FOIA attempt succeeds.

The effort is very likely to be denied, but unless it's tried, who knows what might've happened?

Baitball Blogger

(48,043 posts)

5. Stunned, but in a good way.

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:30 PM

Dec 2016

Here we go again. LOL! Some people are going to lose their shit!

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

6. I hope so!

Reply to Baitball Blogger (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:35 PM

Dec 2016

I can't smell victory but I love the fire under their collective rear ends while they try to remember where they dumped the bags of ballots!

Baitball Blogger

(48,043 posts)

7. Yup.

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:40 PM

Dec 2016

murielm99

(31,436 posts)

14. You can't smell victory, but you and I can

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:13 PM

Dec 2016

smell the fire under their rear ends. Burning right-wing ass is good!

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

21. Oh the pure pleasure

Reply to murielm99 (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:35 PM

Dec 2016

Well for the moment we can dream and dream hard, clicking shoes together over here!

KewlKat

(5,650 posts)

8. I know many of us are financially tapped out with all the fundraising to fight the election results

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:49 PM

Dec 2016

but if you have a dollar to spare, you might throw it in this pot.

They currently have $63,000 but I'm sure they'll need more for legal fees.

https://protectourelections.nationbuilder.com/florida_recount

Here is a link to the "Complaint" if you care to read it.

http://www.protectourelections.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Complaint.pdf

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

11. Thanks, should this be posted elsewhere?

Reply to KewlKat (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:05 PM

Dec 2016

JudyM

(29,517 posts)

18. You might also crosspost it in Activism and in the Florida group.

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:25 PM

Dec 2016

Nwgirl503

(406 posts)

30. I'm donating

Reply to KewlKat (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:49 PM

Dec 2016

KewlKat

(5,650 posts)

38. It's great that you can help out. Thank you!

Reply to Nwgirl503 (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 06:11 PM

Dec 2016

Ligyron

(7,894 posts)

9. Florida would have been the ballgame for Hills.

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:50 PM

Dec 2016

I'm in FL and I'll look up your group tomorrow!

Ellipsis

(9,183 posts)

10. Clint Curtis... Wild. It's Old home week on the election fraud front.

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:51 PM

Dec 2016

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

12. Remind me please?

Reply to Ellipsis (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:06 PM

Dec 2016

Can't recall his involvement

Ellipsis

(9,183 posts)

13. Allow me to elucidate on this deep rabbit hole.

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:11 PM

Dec 2016

"Curtis is a computer programmer who worked for Yang Enterprises in Oviedo, Florida until February 2001. He made a series of allegations about his former employer and about Republican Congressman Tom Feeney, including an allegation that in 2000, Feeney and Yang Enterprises requested Curtis's assistance in a scheme to steal votes by inserting fraudulent code into touch screen voting systems. In particular, he alleged that at the behest of Feeney, in September 2000, he was asked to write a program for a touchscreen voting machine that would make it possible to change the results of an election undetectably. This technology, Curtis explained, could also be used in any electronic tabulation machine or scanner. Curtis assumed initially that this effort was aimed at detecting Democratic fraud, but later learned that it was intended to benefit the Republican Party."

Clint Curtis Investigator's "Suicide" case reopened by Georgia Police!
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=283

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

16. Well, well

Reply to Ellipsis (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:23 PM

Dec 2016

Curtis seems to be the man for the job! I'll keep reading up on this one.

JudyM

(29,517 posts)

19. He knows what he's doing. Great to see him at the helm. Won't tolerate shenanigans.

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:26 PM

Dec 2016

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

20. They need help - Floridians with voting complaints

Reply to JudyM (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:30 PM

Dec 2016

Not sure how well they're doing with all of that, but great to learn he's an old pro!!

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

15. Cool - we only lost Fla by 120,000 votes! Anything can happen now.

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:17 PM

Dec 2016

ancianita

(38,537 posts)

22. It's potentially 29 more electors, which could easily swing four more Hamiltons Dec.19.

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:45 PM

Dec 2016

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

23. This one would do it

Reply to ancianita (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:46 PM

Dec 2016

Since several other electors are refusing to vote Trump

triron

(22,240 posts)

24. knr

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:54 AM

Dec 2016

flamingdem

(39,918 posts)

25. +1

Reply to triron (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:05 PM

Dec 2016

Raster

(20,999 posts)

26. YES! YES! YES! Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Recount Florida...

Reply to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:25 PM

Dec 2016

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