pussies that can be grabbed at will.

From the same piece:

Tears are flowing...

No Words

or unless we're flat chested and thus automatically excluded because it's very hard to be flat chested and be a 10.

and they are ALL subject to grabbing...this isn't about sex, this is about power.

"La nuit tous les chats sont gris."

All cats look alike in the dark.

Especially by the women who voted for that creep. It hurt me physically in a way, i'm tired, sore, have had three infections in the past month... I almost give up.

I've finally made it to the acceptance stage of grief, but I too have gotten sick, run a fever, and felt terribly depressed.

I'm still locked in anger, and lashing out at former family... former friends..

I have resorted to misogynistic insults, ageist insults, racist insults, and all manner of banter that before November 8th would have and did appall me.

I have called women who support trump a "4" and/or a "hag" and have told them they voted for him, they no longer have a voice because they are just women.

I have told elders that supported him, whose profiles say they are retired that they should just off and die because they are beyond their years of being productive citizens in tRump's 'merika. That I hope theirs is the first medicare and social security to get cut out.

I have used the most base and despicable insults against the wives, or children of men on social media who supported trump

I have told school teachers who supported him that I hope they lose their jobs or at the very least have their income severely slashed.

I am disgusted with my behavior on social media, but fuck it, logic doesn't seem to sink in with these dipshits who have voted against their own interests, maybe some of the disgusting medicine that they supported being used against them and the ones they love will finally get through to them.

I flipped off and swore at a Bernie or Buster on the street. He was a complete stranger, but I overheard a phone conversation.

Perhaps a break from social media would help?

Do not, at all costs, accept what has happened. Just have to live with it. If we get overwrought and have health problems from it all, then they have really won.

I want to feel guilty for acting like this, but I am too pissed off

That kind of behavior surely is not helping you.

I will never give the cretins that kind of power over me.

getting beyond denial... this is a crushing blow that not many men can understand

I am still in total rage and I admit a bit of denial, clinging like mad to the stupid hope that somehow, some way this can be changed. It's just so hard to acknowledge the complete win by all the forces for bad in this country. I can't accept the nightmare sub-humans that are now in charge, I just can't. I never accepted shrub as my president and will never accept this either. I'm hoping I can get to the point where I don't feel the need to scream all the time, but nowhere near there at this point.

There is no comparison. When I say acceptance I mean simply acknowledging it happened. I fully intend on organizing to resist upcoming horrors.

I NEVER thought I'd see the day that anyone worse than shrub was able to steal the election, but it happened.

didn't give a fuck that he was a sexual predator is the worse thing at all, the fact that he is a racist, the fact that he seems to want to ban Muslims and hates Mexicans... Every video I have seen said they didn't trust Hillary, and voted for HIM to blow up the system??? wtf?? They blew it up all right, and we may be lucky to survive it.

Every.single.one of them are dead to me. They have ruined our lives for ignorant stupid reasons and I hope it really hurts them and their families and friends badly. It just totally infuriates me that the majority of us are so screwed over by these ignorant fucks.

California and can get lost in Chinatown and be protected by the hundreds of Asians around me to shield me from harm.

Now, I've spent so many years in the south and the cost of housing is so far below what it is in CA, I really can't afford to easily move back. However, if secession is coming, I will be moving in with my friends and will find some way to get my own place. HA. I know that's not going to happen, but it is something I fantasize about. Still haven't been able to face the true dark reality that's coming when he destroys our way of life within 3 years.

and my fellow Americans rewarded him with a win. Really?? Lock her up? Nasty woman? And they voted for him. Pussy grabber? Talked about trying to f**k a woman like a bitch. And people ignored that, my mother and mother in law who go to Church every day, voted for him.

Damn. I think many people, including my mother and MIL, including many women, hate powerful women.

The powerful men are seen as doing what they should be doing, but powerful women are seen with suspicion. These women are seen as somehow illegitimate, as if they have no business being powerful and must have committed some trickery to be where they are. It is all of course fueled by sexism, something men and women are bathed in from the moment they're born. It is no wonder women can be just as sexist as men.

powerful woman. That was what they liked.

Because they hate the powerful woman.

They'll believe whatever bad things they are told to believe about her, even if they are Democrats and it's the GOP talking, even if they are women and it's an abusive man talking.

Because 'murika hates a woman with power.

Just shows how they do NOT understand that a woman could choose a career and excell at it for the sake of the work. It was bizarre to see both during the primary and the general that some had to believe she was the devil incarnate for choosing a life of service.

Not all men feel that way ..............
The only men and women I admire are the ones that are fair in their dealings

has any positive influence on people?

The fucking church and the Xian religion at its base is misogynitic, racist and bigoted. A patriarchal code set down by men for men, asserting that some supernatural being decided that's the way it is. Women are second-class cutizens. Property of men, in fact.

Nope, religion is the problem. Your relatives would have had a better chance of voting for Hillary had they stayed away from church.

that preach and live the actual meaning of Jesus Christ. I truly believe that a Republican can not be a Christian, especially in these times.

all so called Christians who support any politician who makes life harder for the "least of these".

A fairly loathsome personage, at least as how he's depicted in the Buy Bull.

And no, I don't want to argue about it. I am simply saying that, as someone who teaches world religion and mythology, and has looked at the Bible, along with many other sacred texts of the world, from an academic perspective, I disagree.

I AM HER!

White men, as they usually do, voted Republican. It was White women that did Hillary in. That's where the author needs to address her grievances to.

Despite the fact you've been told that Trump earned 4% less of the votes of white women than Romney did.

In 2016, women had the historic opportunity to elect a woman to the highest office in America and they balked. That opportunity was not there for them in 2012. Thus, comparisons to Romney's percentage are moot. Additionally, Romney was not the raging misogynist asshole that Trump is, which adds more fuel to my argument.

Yet fewer white women voted for Trump than Romney, and Romney lost. That you think those women should have voted for Clinton doesn't mean their vote decided the election.

I don't give a hoot how many more or less white women voted for Trump than Romney or for Clinton compared to Obama. The 2016 election was between Trump and Clinton with some 3rd party types thrown in.

White women voted for Trump over Clinton by a 9 point margin, 52-43

http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/national/president

Granted, nowhere near as bad as white men, who voted for Trump over Hillary by an astonishingly sickening 62-31 (31 point margin).

As pointed out above.

examined against statements like these from the OP

and ome are conservatives who would never vote for a Democrat regardless.

Off the hook for being even MORE likely to vote for Trump than white women? What they did in the past is completely irrelevant. Your statement is quintessential sexism.

they voted for a raging misogynist who bragged about sexual assault.

Vote against, call out, etc., sexism? Is it up to blacks but not whites to object to racism?

No one here should buy that argument.

Making it about race doesn't help.

We need to understand and figure out how to get White women to support women for office.

They aren't going to abandon ideology and issue concerns because the candidate is female, no more than I would vote for Sarah Palin because of her gender.

Clinton did win married women, which the Democrats have not done in some time. Her lowest showing among the female vote was women without a college education. She won women with a college education but not men with a college education.

Possibly one of the worst candidates we could have offered. I'm willing to look in the mirror for the answer.

one of the worst candidates ever? That would be actually looking in the mirror.

I've come to my conclusion based on a very good set of facts. Calling Trump bad is not a winning strategy. Vote for me because I'm a woman is not a winning strategy. We need new direction and new blood in this party. Otherwise, we better get used to losing.

And what exactly should I examine? That I don't have the right to vote for a qualified, competent candidate with detailed policy positions on a wide range of issues? That the 3.75 million more Democrats who voted for her in the primary should be stripped of our voting rights so that the man you favor doesn't have to face the inconvenience of being accountable to the electorate? Am I supposed to examine the fact that I spent hundreds of hours making phone calls and knocking on doors for the Democratic Party rather than repeating false claims designed to contribute to GOP electoral victories? Exercising my constitutional voting rights and volunteering for my party: Those are the sins I need to atone for?

Clinton didn't run on simply being a woman. She had a robust set of policy positions, https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
Your comments reveal that you couldn't get past her gender to even consider them. You expose yourself by your false claim that she ever assumed that being a woman was enough. Just how is it that you can go through a general election without ever bothering to inform yourself on the candidates policies?

I will not be relinquishing my voting rights to people so utterly unconcerned with policy and whose excuse for analysis involves repeating nonsense they hear on television. You offer no facts because you never bothered to inform yourself on the Democratic candidate's policy positions. You post exemplifies exactly what the author linked in the OP finds so disturbing.

Let's try to move forward as a party instead of clinging to the past. You want to be stuck in gender mode, have at it. I'm moving forward.

So you've bought into the trendy and popular, yet unsupported spins by the McCarthyites as well? I empathize... simplistic commercial branding easily persuades an undisciplined mind.

Her entire message was that Trump was bad. That's not a winning strategy, it's a disaster.

she runs for office. hmmm. how could that be?

and the McCarthyism began.

while she was Secretary of State she had high approval ratings.

and favorability numbers.

It is amazing how that has just been totally written out of the history books.

Of positive press. And press is what we really rely on here in the land of media facilitated appearances.

Also, I don't get why no one here is counting in Russian and down-home-GOPee hacking, manipulation, suppression, and all of that.

Nearly 3million votes for Hillary not counted? There's a lot more support for her among the ppl than we're Accounting for.

this was just the culmination of a decades long vendetta.

How popular was she in the USA?

And how did she achieve that after decades of negative press coverage?

easier in other places where they still have actual working, free press.

which came first? popularity or negative press? it was her husband who was the original target, then her.
and again, she won.

Seeing as I recall my dad despising Hillary before Bill was even out of his first primary.

Im just saying.. We here in the US are pretty USA centric, and generally dont seem to give much of a thought to what the rest of the world thinks of anyone or anything

not sure when that started exactly, but it had to have been going by the time bill was re-elected.
plus the rampant sexism that she faced. same crap as now, her hair, her name, her clothes, her voice, her job, her husband, her daughter, her dog and cat, ffs. instinctual behavior imho, but that is another thread.

I think that was honestly the biggest different between the president's run and Hillary's.

The ptb had something like 30 years to smear Hillary. And they used it. By the time she was in the GE, every bit of that came into play.

President Obama on the other hand, burst onto the scene with what amounted to no prep time. Even those of us involved in politics and aware of his existence didn't really see him coming until he was here. They still scrambled and smeared him viciously. But they hadn't had the literal decades to grind it in, so it didn't stick so well.

NT

fear.

fear fuels hate. the patriarchy does NOT want to grant equality to women and live in a just world. the fear is that the world will be so much better when that day arrives. sadly, long after i'm gone. but if the human race survives, i believe the day will come. don't ask me why, it's a faith thing.

imagine.

barbtries - I think you are on to something here. I have long believed that hatred of women comes from deep seated fear. Recently, on a particularly sad post election day, I suggested to my husband that if and when women finally, legally, get to control their reproductive health, we will control the conversation and that is scary shit to a lot of people.

I remember back in the 80's when I was a twenty-something, my mother told me that our fight as women wasn't over. I didn't believe her at the time. I thought she was being dramatic. Now I know that she was right. I'm so sorry I didn't hear her.

Teaching, you have to care, but not melt down in front of the kids. I'm hoping for a good opportunity for an ugly cry when the holidays finally start.

When I got to the door to go teach that first morning, I just thought--I will get through this day because every woman has faced having to live life after the most disgusting and undeserved humiliations, and carry on despite disappointment and failure. We have had to become experts.

a couple of tears when I saw Kate McKinnon sing Hallelujah. I don't know if I will because it's been a long time since I've cried much.

So true

entire life helping people. she was more than qualified and she got a kick in the ass.

and I will NEVER allow myself to call this situation normal. I wake up every morning with a pit in my stomach and an ache in my heart and head. But I'd rather live with that than to get to acceptance. I will always RESIST.

I am the father of two daughters and I will never forget or forgive this loss

2 of my sons will come along. My oldest son was mad because his wife and i went full speed ahead on the plans and he wasn't consulted enough. so i sent him an email with links to the march, and i said to him, I would love it if you came and marched with us. It has always been my belief that women's liberation is everyone's liberation.

i was 18 in 1973, considered myself a feminist at least since that time. it is a fucking kick in the ass that we still must litigate this. same with civil rights, history repeating itself and it's so damn wrong and unnecessary!

and I, and my boys, are right there with you.

Two draft age sons, I might add. I will never forgive or forget.

The stories and the diversity and the sheer numbers gives me a lot of strength

and very different from so much of what we read here on DU.

Of thousands of actually Hillary supporters supporting one another. So many stories of outright bigotry--then I come here and get told bigotry is some sort politically gestalt that will fix itself with the right economic approach.

It hurts.

forgive ANY Trump voters. But white females are the ones who gave me the deepest cuts of all.

oh yes

ass! I want to call them on it but they seem to ok with a the shit he and his kids have done since he won! Nothing to see here . . . No conflicts of interest . . . No draining the swamp . . . who cares if Russia messed in our elections . . . Nothing seems to matter. I pray that the Democrats do not cooperate . . . stonewall - the way they treated President Obama and his family for the past 8 years is beyond disgusting! I want Hollywood to ignore him . . . Designers not to dress her . . . News and entertainment reports to ignore them - they beg for fame - we need to starve them out! But more than anything we need to find someone within enough money to help establish voting machines in minority precincts make sure the vote is properly counted - we don't lose elections they are taken from us!

K&R

I've been a feminist since my teens -- I saw the Billie Jean King/Bobby Riggs match, listened to the crap that was being spewed all around me, and changed.

She was going to be an EXCELLENT world leader. She was going to help.

But the same forces that were spewing the same crap back in the 60's and 70's have hijacked reality yet again. There's going to be a significant body count this time, if we survive as a species. It was the worst possible decision for a nation to make.

All because of deeply-held cultural misogyny. Misogyny so deeply embedded that it even sweeps up many women themselves in its dark primitivism.

Really, the place that hears my screams is my car, on the 101.

I had an experience that is probably related, now that I think about it. I got a jury summons, and when I went last Tuesday it was for a rape. Well, 2 rapes, and I remembered it from the newspaper. Those who wanted to be let off were told to stay and those of us who didn't think we would be were told to return in a week, i.e. yesterday.

Women I had not though of in years came into my mind during that week. The 14 year old who told me (then also 14) that she had been raped at age 7. The woman in college who told me she got up at about 2 or 3 a.m. to let out the cat, and the next thing she knew she had a pillowcase over her head. The woman who told me, when our firstborns were still toddlers, that she had been raped at 16 or 17 (I don't remember which) and had gotten pregnant. That one really stuck with me because she had left home early because her father kept backing her into corners and grabbing her breasts. When she realized she was pregnant from a date-rape, she told me she'd gotten an abortion, but because they weren't available in Colorado she'd gotten on an airplane and to that day could not remember where she'd gone to get it. This year, my daughter's ex-roommate, who is a lesbian...

I think of myself as a rational person, good on a jury, but I felt utterly overwhelmed. The night before I could not sleep for thinking of those women.

When it came time to state whether I thought I could be objective, and whether any of the questions on the questionnaire indicated I could not, I asked for that private conference the judge had offered. In the waiting area I chatted with a neighbor but felt my stomach clench and clench and clench. Finally I was called in to speak. "Number 5," I said. "I was the victim of a crime myself: I was sexually abused as a child." Over the judge saying, "We don't need that detail," I was already saying, "I know 4 women who've been raped. I could not sleep last night." He dismissed me "for cause," and I left, thanking whatever gods and goddesses might be that I would not have to sit through the graphic details.

How does this relate to what happened on Election Day? It was not linked in my conscious mind, but the deep psyche knows.

It knows.

Yes, our unconscious minds are responding to DT, and we all see him as he is.

rape in their lives. Many times family. My own was when I was 3 and a half years old. Then something like this election happens and you really, down in your gut see how society sees women. less than.

after the Access Hollywood Tape came out, when he invited the women Bill had had affairs with and then proceeded to stalk Clinton around the stage. I found the debate painful to watch and couldn't sleep that night. I then learned a number of women had similar reactions. We had been watching a sexual predator and it triggered a deep sense of unease. Now that man is about to become president. It's too awful to be true, yet it is.

male nominee in US history can triumph over an extremely well qualified, dedicated, and hard working woman.

Very annoying.

Not that Thatcher was any gem, but even the PAKISTAN, for crying out loud. Even the Germans!!!

I blew up at my husband about something trivial last night and broke down crying. It took me a little while to realize why.

Involved in this election, but something which I think is unique to American politics is that many people are put off by a woman displaying ambition, especially in public. Hillary was appointed Secretary of State, RBG, Sotomayor, Kagan were all appointed to the Supreme Court, all enjoying high approvals. Hillary running a long campaign looks like naked ambition to regressives and in a way which does not in a male. That said, she's at 2.6 million more votes (and counting) than Cheeto. . . . . .

I think it applies here. Depressed? Decide you are not going to take bullshit anymore. Call out every misogynist bastard, assert yourself. Not meanly, but firmly.

Be demure? Get along at all costs? Be sweet? Kiss my ass demure, be strong, be yourself, call out inequities.

Are we done being " pussies"? Oh yeah , we are done being pussies of the certain kind Twitler can grab.
We need to be the kind that when he reaches, we gnarl his hand off.

I can't fathom how ANY WOMAN voted for this disgusting misogynist. If you know women that voted for him, WTF was their rational?

On the OP, I deeply empathize and as the father of a very independent minded woman in her 20's, fear for how this administration will continue to marginalize woman.

One thinks Bill O'Reilly is non-partisan because that's what he claims he is via his "no spin zone" gimmick. They are angry with me for being angry with those who voted for him.

Many won't admit voting for him though. Deep down they know he is out of bounds and wreckless. Three in my immediate family were incensed by my Facebook condemnations of his supporters. My emotions have been out of control the past 3 months. The more he maneuvered around the serious questions of his qualifications and lack of transparency, the more I then took it out on those who I knew were so opposed to "Crooked" Hillary. I know that was not a useful way to turn them, but that is how I responded to his racist outbursts and misogyny constantly broadcast on MSNBC. But how does one not see through his con games?

(BTW, looking for a diversion on the Food Network, I came across a competition named "Cooks vs Cons". Remember when it once had shows that taught you how to cook? I tell you, con men are taking over the whole country. Scamming is the industry of the 21st century.)

After Fuckump mocked the disabled journalist, how can anyone vote for him....

I'm probably repeating what was already said, but what bothers me the most and is deeply disturbing is how the element of misogyny is being deleted for many analysts and people, just taken out of the equation as if it didn't happen. This really brought up past experiences that I've struggled to get over and had to get over mostly alone. And that brick wall or glass ceiling that just got hit is likely to come with major losses of what has been gained by women. I feel so very sick about that. And I resent all the people who do it, even when they are hating that Trump won the election. Today is especially bad given the federal judge's reversal of the earlier ruling to recount in MI. I talk to people every day who see no problem, Trump is a little different, but they are hopeful that this will be good. Then there are those who are horrified by Trump. I think those who see through Trump of the people around me see the misogyny more than those who analyze for a living. Just feeling sad.

And some are deeply invested in denying it.

I know there are many mature, competent, responsible, compassionate males. But there appear to be none who identify as Republican. Those conservatives who warned against Trump are in hiding today or are targeted for retribution. He'll, if you don't sing "his" praises

Our bank experience shows me that the men working the loans and managing the branch are inept and unwilling to even try to appear competent. The two woman who are identified as "relationship bankers" are basically doing their PR, while also being familiar with our mortgage, money markets, etc, and advise us.

Rachel Maddow is talking about Peter Thiel and his manifesto bemoaning the loss of "freedom" based on women gaining voting rights. What the hell?

The war between the sexes has just gone nuclear.

but this article helps me cope. thanks BainsBane.

The loss and all it represents is still raw..

I remember Serghey Lavrov, the Russian ambassador tweeted that "there are too many pussies in this election"
OTOH, my daughter is teaching little kindergarten girls to be kick ass. So...

And tRump's issue is not that he's a man. There are millions upon millions of wonderful men, they just happen to have more socially progressive views.
I'm sorry for your pain... welcome to DU.

...that I have not even been able to cry yet.

I wake up every morning and say to myself, "This cannot possibly be happening." It is all the more bitter that as fine an individual as President Obama is being followed by the worst of the worst of human dreck that is DFT (Donald Fucking Trump).

when I saw SNL Hallelluja opening. Floodgates still locked in though.

I am not a woman, but feel for you. I am a believer in equality in ALL aspects of life, but "No, woman, stay in your place. No, woman, you are not good enough. No, woman, no matter what you do, you will not win, you will not be the boss of me." is a phrase you wrote, yet it shows that a large amount of women voted for Fuckump. In my opinion, its hard to fight the good fight, when those who you believe are fighting with you, fight against you. Not just the women who voted against Clinton, but the independents, Bernie or Bust /Stein supporters, etc...

This apsect of equality seems to run in this country and in Islamic countries, yet throughout the world, there have been many women elected as leaders who made things happen, Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Julia Gillard, Golda Mier, Corazon Aquino, Indira Gandhi, etc...

I dont believe its the world that is slapping you down, just some arrogant, sexist Americans.

and as a man maybe it is impossible for me to ever understand but I do feel that this is the wrong take-away from the election. As painful as the loss is for women, this isn't the bottom line. It may have been a factor but it wasn't the most important one.

You aren't the authority on what we are allowed to feel or believe.

That's like the DU I used to know.

but you are not the authority on what I am allowed to feel or believe either.

Further, I think we are making an error if we come to the conclusion that the only reason Hillary lost was because she was a woman.

Take that as you will. I know you'll hate me and think that I'm being sexist, ect but I honestly am not.