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CNN Hired People to Support Trump on air and stipulated that they NEVER bash him (Original Post) LaydeeBug Dec 2016 OP
First, CNN is not a broadcast station. They're a cable outlet. Exilednight Dec 2016 #1
"that's where the viewers were???" when the fuck did the news become supply side? LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #2
The distinction is a very big deal. Exilednight Dec 2016 #3
You're coming from THEIR end...not from OUR end and you know it. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #11
Those are just facts. Exilednight Dec 2016 #13
No...that's how they try and frame the narrative. Please proceed. Pretend. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #14
2 questions for you. Exilednight Dec 2016 #15
Thanks for your attempt to marginalize the issue by insisting *I* submit answers to your questions LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #16
Think what you want, but facts are facts. Exilednight Dec 2016 #18
I think you and Ladybug are both right. pangaia Dec 2016 #27
You don't think NBC, CBS, and ABC need/want to make profits to stay in business? spooky3 Dec 2016 #23
Broadcast networks would like their news hours to be profitable, but Exilednight Dec 2016 #25
where is your link to support that? spooky3 Dec 2016 #26
No network actually covers th cost for producing one hour Exilednight Dec 2016 #29
News, especially cable news, has been profit driven for some time now Va Lefty Dec 2016 #5
Proof Kolesar Dec 2016 #8
Here is the proof mcar Dec 2016 #12
Thank you, mcar! Cha Dec 2016 #30
"Network" must be seen as a documentary . . . . . no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #4
Ben Mankiewicz noted the realities LeftInTX Dec 2016 #6
Corey Lewandowsky was the head Trump cheerleader at CNN. oasis Dec 2016 #7
They didn't just "do the same for Hillary" FBaggins Dec 2016 #9
Nice try. No dice. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #10
Baloney. They had a list of three GOP candidates that they hoped wouldn't get eliminated early. bettyellen Dec 2016 #17
One must truly twist reality and oneself into quite the pretzel to come with prime nonsense synergie Dec 2016 #22
exactly. it was in the leaked emails. m-lekktor Dec 2016 #31
The propaganda is getting over the top. Why is anyone watching this nonsense? Turn that shit off!! AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #19
We need to let their advertisers know that we vote each day with our dollars. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #20
Yessss!!!! Let them know and turn it off until they act responsibly. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #21
We don't have much room to complain. Donna Brazile. jalan48 Dec 2016 #24
Donna Brazille was fired...was Lewandowski? False equivalence much? nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #32
So she leaks a debate question to Hillary, gets fired by CNN and remains the Chair of our Party. jalan48 Dec 2016 #33
Holy fuck, now you've FURTHERED the false equivalence *AND* extended it to Hillary. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #34
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #35
You can't. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #36
CNNFux gnewz lite. diet fux. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #28
I don't doubt it. Today's CNN sucks, but it would be nice if you provided a link in your OP mtnsnake Dec 2016 #37
It would be nice if the Courts Orders were followed too LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #38

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
1. First, CNN is not a broadcast station. They're a cable outlet.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:26 AM
Dec 2016

That's a huge difference.

Second, you make this accusation, but where's your proof?

I'll agree that CNN had turned into the Trump channel, but that's where the viewers were.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
2. "that's where the viewers were???" when the fuck did the news become supply side?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:28 AM
Dec 2016

and splitting the hair over a cable outlet and broadcast station is some pretty weak tea.

Ask Zucker where the proof is. That's what they did.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
3. The distinction is a very big deal.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:35 AM
Dec 2016

Cable doesnt play by the same rules. Cable new is supply side.

Broadcast networks get the airwaves for free providing they supply one hour of informational content. Cable providers do not have the same agreement. They MUST turn a profit to stay in the cable game.

To turn a profit, they need viewers. Especially in a media landscape that shifts quickly and people look for the news they want to read, or agrees with them.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
11. You're coming from THEIR end...not from OUR end and you know it.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:51 AM
Dec 2016

and I am not talking about a left/right divide here either.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
13. Those are just facts.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:05 AM
Dec 2016

Cable news is nothing more than glamorizing unfortunate events.

They have to have ratings to stay profitable: that's a fact.

They're not bound by the same rules as broadcasters: that's a fact.

Do I wish they were governed by the same rules? Yes, but my wishes aren't so.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
15. 2 questions for you.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:10 PM
Dec 2016

1. Are cable networks bound by the same rules?

2. Do they need to be profitable to stay in business?

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
16. Thanks for your attempt to marginalize the issue by insisting *I* submit answers to your questions
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:38 PM
Dec 2016

But you are obfuscating the issue, and we both know it

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
18. Think what you want, but facts are facts.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:08 PM
Dec 2016

Trump draws ratings. Like it, dislike it .... it doesn't matter because people tune in. You can ignore reality, but it's not going to change.

Trump is a reality television personality, and yes the networks treated him as such, but he also paid their bills because everyone wanted to hear what bombastic thing would come out of his mouth next.

Did they fees red meat to the masses? Yes.

Did the masses eat it up? Yes.

You accuse me of obfuscating, but you're ignoring the truth, and we both know it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. I think you and Ladybug are both right.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:31 PM
Dec 2016

The problem is, the lower intelligence 50% or so of Americans THINK cable news is news..


There is something immoral about what cable 'news' shows do.

spooky3

(36,204 posts)
23. You don't think NBC, CBS, and ABC need/want to make profits to stay in business?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 08:46 PM
Dec 2016

They have been obsessed with Nielsen ratings since...forever.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
25. Broadcast networks would like their news hours to be profitable, but
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:19 PM
Dec 2016

they can make up the revenue during primetime television.

Broadcast networks are required to provide informational content every night. Cable "news" networks are under no such obligation.

spooky3

(36,204 posts)
26. where is your link to support that?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:24 PM
Dec 2016

And that seems to be a trivial distinction today. All networks are competitive for profits and survival. CNN shows lots of non-news content, such as crime shows, travel shows, etc.

Further, if the big networks merely "would like" their news broadcasts to be profitable, they wouldn't watch ratings so carefully. They absolutely watch ratings carefully and management fires people if they're dissatisfied with the ratings. They sell advertising based on these ratings -- specifically during the news hours and at other times.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
29. No network actually covers th cost for producing one hour
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:48 PM
Dec 2016

of news through the advertising of that one hour. It's a very nice expensive venture.

Yes, they do want high ratings, but want they want more is to retain those viewers into the primetime hours. That's where the money is.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
5. News, especially cable news, has been profit driven for some time now
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:47 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:21 AM - Edit history (1)

the days when networks viewed the News Departments as public service divisions are gone. Not saying that is good just a reality.

mcar

(43,504 posts)
12. Here is the proof
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:53 AM
Dec 2016
http://www.nationalmemo.com/hustlers-hucksters-hacks-who-helped-elect-trump/

For CNN, Trumpland’s been an entire off-the-shelf business model. Their president, Jeff Zucker, was the executive who green-lighted “The Apprentice” while head of NBC Entertainment. He’s a cocktail-party pal with Donald, and has been accused by Huffington Post and BuzzFeed founder Ken Lerer, who knows the media business inside and out, of turning the Trump campaign into the very backbone of their 2016 brand as “a strategy, a programming strategy.”

It’s certainly not, for the Cable News Network, a news story in any recognizable sense, which would imply some sort of responsibility to inform. How could CNN possibly do that after hiring Corey Lewandowski to comment upon a man, Donald Trump, whose emoluments he still received, and who was under a binding legal agreement never to inform the public of anything disparaging about him?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512647946

oasis

(51,705 posts)
7. Corey Lewandowsky was the head Trump cheerleader at CNN.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:00 AM
Dec 2016

Cranking out propaganda while getting paid at both ends.

FBaggins

(27,704 posts)
9. They didn't just "do the same for Hillary"
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:38 AM
Dec 2016

They did that for her. The Clinton campaign wanted Trump to get the nomination and pushed the networks to take him seriously.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. Baloney. They had a list of three GOP candidates that they hoped wouldn't get eliminated early.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:38 PM
Dec 2016

For strategic reasons, which basically every campaign does. And basically most people thought Trump would be he losingest of all of them. No one foresaw the bulk for the media ignoring all his crazy lies.

It was a list of three candidates, not propping up trump. So sick of this RW bullshit getting play.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
22. One must truly twist reality and oneself into quite the pretzel to come with prime nonsense
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 08:30 PM
Dec 2016

like that. You actually believe such convoluted ridiculousness?

jalan48

(14,393 posts)
33. So she leaks a debate question to Hillary, gets fired by CNN and remains the Chair of our Party.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:34 AM
Dec 2016

I'm sure you can understand what voters might think about that, especially undecideds. We lost any high ground we had, her actions just fed the , "Hillary as the corrupt, insider, politician". Big, fucking mistake.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
34. Holy fuck, now you've FURTHERED the false equivalence *AND* extended it to Hillary.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:11 AM
Dec 2016

Wow.

Like holy fucking WOW

Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #34)

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
36. You can't.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:15 AM
Dec 2016

because you aren't screaming about the media turning into a de fact arm of the KGB.

And they won't talk about it.

They will tell YOU what to talk about.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
37. I don't doubt it. Today's CNN sucks, but it would be nice if you provided a link in your OP
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:30 AM
Dec 2016

that shows that CNN "stipulated that they never bash him."

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
38. It would be nice if the Courts Orders were followed too
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:25 AM
Dec 2016

but we are where we are.

PS. Rachel Maddow reported on this. I saw it.

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