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If they release hacking intelligence to the electors, (Original Post) B2G Dec 2016 OP
Were you not around during the Reagan administration? Blanks Dec 2016 #1
Yes, I can just see it now. B2G Dec 2016 #3
not just Reagan-- all presidents, but especiialy Repubs Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #18
Even redacted, I doubt they will release any information to the electors. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #2
I do not want the electors to vote for anyone but Trump/Clinton Txbluedog Dec 2016 #4
Yeah, but if they dump Trump, at least we'll still have elections. Ligyron Dec 2016 #10
We're going to have elections regardless Txbluedog Dec 2016 #11
I really wouldn't be so confident that there's nothing he can to ruin our democracy Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #19
But it is NOT the will of the people. pangaia Dec 2016 #27
Actually, their job, marybourg Dec 2016 #29
Obama needs to declare this election null and void... Joe941 Dec 2016 #5
Just because the DNC didn't keep their email system secure? ChetSinger Dec 2016 #6
They swung the election by leaking emails... Joe941 Dec 2016 #7
Maybe yes, but if the RNC's laundry got aired should Trump get a do-over? ChetSinger Dec 2016 #8
Its not just the hacked emails. The Russian involvement goes much deeper! Joe941 Dec 2016 #12
Links to your info? nt B2G Dec 2016 #13
pss Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #26
The RNC was hacked as well. pangaia Dec 2016 #28
Where in the Constitution does the President hold this power? Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #14
He holds a wide range of executive powers... Joe941 Dec 2016 #15
No. That would make him a dictator B2G Dec 2016 #17
No they wouldn't. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #20
No such thing. marybourg Dec 2016 #31
We're so outraged that Russia tampered with our election B2G Dec 2016 #16
Obama should have done that on Nov. 9 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #21
this. Joe941 Dec 2016 #22
Under what authority SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #23
Under Joe941's authority. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #24
Under what Constitutional authority onenote Dec 2016 #25
There's no legal way to do that. marybourg Dec 2016 #30
I agree n/t ChetSinger Dec 2016 #9

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
1. Were you not around during the Reagan administration?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:42 PM
Dec 2016

You can do whatever you want and just say 'national security'.

It worked for him.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
3. Yes, I can just see it now.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:46 PM
Dec 2016

"We released some super secret info to the electors, who had zero security clearance, and they decided to overturn the election results, but we can't tell you what we showed them and why they made the decision they did".

Yeah. That'll fly.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
4. I do not want the electors to vote for anyone but Trump/Clinton
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:03 PM
Dec 2016

Their job is to vote for the person who won the electoral votes in their state. I do not want to set precedent for electors deciding to overturn the will of the people (however flawed or rigged the elections were). Otherwise, we'll have a democracy where elections mean nothing and 535 members of the electoral college can appoint whomever they want as POTUS.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
11. We're going to have elections regardless
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:26 PM
Dec 2016

Trump cannot do away with elections in 2020 no matter what he does. Our "democracy" is too deeply rooted

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
19. I really wouldn't be so confident that there's nothing he can to ruin our democracy
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:29 PM
Dec 2016

not to mention the GOP is in power and would go along with it.

marybourg

(13,181 posts)
29. Actually, their job,
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:52 AM
Dec 2016

as envisioned by the founders, is to use their judgment and experience to prevent a unfit person from becoming President; just such an event as we have now.

Unfortunately, over the 2+ centuries of non-use they have become nothing more than a rubber stamp. But that's a by-product of human nature; it's not their job. And they can't appoint "anyone". They can only appoint one of the 3 highest vote getters.

We are going through just the type of process our Constitution mandates. But the result is, sadly, inevitable. That doesn't mean we shouldn't go through it.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
5. Obama needs to declare this election null and void...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:05 PM
Dec 2016

due to russian hacking. Then schedule a new election within 2 weeks. Its the only fair way to resolve these issues.

 

ChetSinger

(14 posts)
6. Just because the DNC didn't keep their email system secure?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:11 PM
Dec 2016

Really? If the RNC didn't keep their computers secure and their laundry got aired out and Trump lost, should they ask for a do-over?

Now, if the Russians were ever able to corrupt a state's votes and swing it then I'd agree with you. But that's not what I've been hearing.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
12. Its not just the hacked emails. The Russian involvement goes much deeper!
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:38 PM
Dec 2016

So yes Obama needs to declare it null and void.

 
26. pss
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:17 AM
Dec 2016

As much as they like to falsely equate them: Trump=/=Clinton. If someone convinced 60 million Americans that we should nuke our entire country so we could all go to the rapture; I would support any and all circumstances to perpetuate my "nuclear bombs don't send you to heaven" platform.

Trump voters are mindscrubbed and we need to protect them from themselves at this point like someone who has a concussion.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
15. He holds a wide range of executive powers...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:25 PM
Dec 2016

I'm sure his lawyers could find one of those powers to do so with.

Ace Rothstein

(3,299 posts)
20. No they wouldn't.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:31 PM
Dec 2016

Anything Obama, who isn't going to do anything, would try would be struck down by the courts immediately.

marybourg

(13,181 posts)
31. No such thing.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:58 AM
Dec 2016

The Constitution provided for the only remedy: the Electoral Collage selects a different candidate. Failing that, the next opportunity is impeachment, also provided for in the Constitution.

It's interesting reading. You might want to take this opportunity to re-read it.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
16. We're so outraged that Russia tampered with our election
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

That our response is to tamper with our election.

red dog 1

(29,308 posts)
21. Obama should have done that on Nov. 9
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:10 PM
Dec 2016

He could have declared the election null & void, due to Russian hacking, and then rescheduled a new election.

Instead, he called Hillary early in the AM on Nov. 9th and suggested that she should concede.

I wonder why he did that?

Because he wanted a "smooth transition"?

As a Democrat, I feel betrayed by President Obama's lack of action after this cyber-attack by a foreign nation.

Putin got exactly what he wanted; and Obama did nothing about it.

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