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WTF Schumer on Russia Inquiry: I Dont Want This to Turn Into a Benghazi Investigation (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
I want it to turn into Watergate myself bravenak Dec 2016 #1
Me too! get the red out Dec 2016 #3
I hope he at least gets nauseous bravenak Dec 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #18
Yea get the red out Dec 2016 #23
i am going to guess he wants it done by a non partisan group La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #2
That is exactly what he said this morning on the CBS morning show. nt mtnsnake Dec 2016 #7
he rightfully wants it out of the house, because the house is republican controlled La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #8
Maybe, or he just wants to soft peddle it. He's always been to weak against the repugs for my taste. brush Dec 2016 #11
Do you have any proof of this attack on schumer La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #25
This is not anti-D nonsense. It's anti-Schumer. I would've preferred a stonger Dem leader brush Dec 2016 #28
He's much more pro Israel and anti Palestine La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #32
Got any examples of that? leftynyc Dec 2016 #27
Google his position on Netanyahu pulled that crap against the President by appearing before Congress brush Dec 2016 #29
Schumer was representing his constituents leftynyc Dec 2016 #31
It is in my book. I'm from NY. Most New Yorkers weren't in favor of the Netanyahu mess brush Dec 2016 #33
I wasn't in favor either leftynyc Dec 2016 #34
You asked for an example, I gave you one. You can google you know. brush Dec 2016 #35
I asked for EXAMPLES leftynyc Dec 2016 #41
You can still google. I give you that I should have said OFTEN brush Dec 2016 #42
YOU made the charge leftynyc Dec 2016 #47
I don't work for you. You can google as easily as I did the Netanyahu example brush Dec 2016 #51
So you got nothing leftynyc Dec 2016 #53
As I said, I don't work for you. For Schumer to say "I don't want this to be another Benghazi . . . brush Dec 2016 #59
Now you're just flailing leftynyc Dec 2016 #60
He should've said that. And stop with the ad hominem stuff. brush Dec 2016 #62
No - I don't take note of screen names ever leftynyc Dec 2016 #63
We have a different opinion on Schumer. brush Dec 2016 #64
Sorry, This is DU. We have to think the worst of the Dems. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #22
Ain't that the truth La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #24
Google his position on Netanyahu pulling that crap against the Obama by appearing before Congress brush Dec 2016 #30
Or you could post one thing six times as evidence he "always" fails.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #36
Nothing to do with the GOP? Who do you think invited Netayahu? brush Dec 2016 #39
One thing is always? Foremost, it had to do with NYC and Israel. He has constituents. bettyellen Dec 2016 #40
OK, I should have said OFTEN, but forget the constituents thing, Most New Yorkers . . . brush Dec 2016 #45
unless you had a list of things to point to... instead of repeating one thing that's debatable bettyellen Dec 2016 #48
It's not debatable that he urged Dems to attend the Netayahu debacle brush Dec 2016 #49
His constituents are heavily pro-Israel whether you approve or not... bettyellen Dec 2016 #50
I'm from NY. Most of his constituents were NOT in favor of the Netanyahu debacle brush Dec 2016 #52
I am also from NY and it's always been a pro-Ireal stronghold. Sounds like you're a one issue voter. bettyellen Dec 2016 #55
Giving an example does not make one a one-issue voter brush Dec 2016 #57
A singular example proves your "always" claim was incedinary bullshit though. bettyellen Dec 2016 #58
Didn't I concede to you I should have said "often". God, you're a pitbull with the "always". brush Dec 2016 #61
I hope he means that in this case 1) there is a point, and LisaM Dec 2016 #4
The democratic party needs new leadership!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #6
Why? Because schumer thinks a bipartisan or non partisan La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #26
already?? wow. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #9
Not what you think ... bettyellen Dec 2016 #37
I had a feeling Schumer would be too accomodating to the repugs. Backs down too easily brush Dec 2016 #10
If you read the article, his comment was about the fact that it is bipartisan and serious Squinch Dec 2016 #12
Yep. janx Dec 2016 #13
We'll see what he means. I'm from New York and am familiar with Schumer. brush Dec 2016 #20
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #14
He's right, Benghazi was bullshit.. he doesn't want it turn into a bipartisan bullshit investigation uponit7771 Dec 2016 #16
Sadly, I wouldn't count on it. The numbers will be against us in the Senate Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #19
lol, and people wonder okieinpain Dec 2016 #15
Why the fuck not? Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #17
Benghazi was a partisan shitshow that obscured the issue to the point that no one cared about... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #21
Misleading headline! bettyellen Dec 2016 #38
Can Democrats even start an investigation on their own? NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #43
Yes, they can hold them BainsBane Dec 2016 #46
omg.. stop pullling the "both sides do it" chuck Cha Dec 2016 #44
He associated the two...he went there SHRED Dec 2016 #54
I would hope not. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #56

Response to get the red out (Reply #3)

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
8. he rightfully wants it out of the house, because the house is republican controlled
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:39 PM
Dec 2016

why is anyone outraged about this.

by the way, i knew this without even clicking on this link. it's just the sensible think for Schumer to want.

brush

(57,495 posts)
11. Maybe, or he just wants to soft peddle it. He's always been to weak against the repugs for my taste.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:44 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)

brush

(57,495 posts)
28. This is not anti-D nonsense. It's anti-Schumer. I would've preferred a stonger Dem leader
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:05 AM
Dec 2016

Google his position when Netanyahu pulled that crap against the President by appearing before Congress.

I'm from NY and am not unfamiliar with Schumer.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
32. He's much more pro Israel and anti Palestine
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:15 AM
Dec 2016

Than I would like, but it is just one position in keeping with the state he represents.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. Got any examples of that?
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:05 AM
Dec 2016

I'm finding it impossible to remember him rolling over for them unless he had literally no other choice.

brush

(57,495 posts)
29. Google his position on Netanyahu pulled that crap against the President by appearing before Congress
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:07 AM
Dec 2016
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
31. Schumer was representing his constituents
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:10 AM
Dec 2016

who are STRONGLY supportive of Israel. That's his job and why we elected him. That's not rolling over for the pubs. Try again.

brush

(57,495 posts)
33. It is in my book. I'm from NY. Most New Yorkers weren't in favor of the Netanyahu mess
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:43 AM
Dec 2016

And that includes most Jewish New Yorkers.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
34. I wasn't in favor either
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:46 AM
Dec 2016

BUT that is NOT rolling over for the pubbies. That's not airing our differences when the choice was already made. You said he's ALWAYS been too weak against the pubs and I asked for examples. This is the only thing you can come up with to make your point? That would make for a strange definition of ALWAYS.

brush

(57,495 posts)
42. You can still google. I give you that I should have said OFTEN
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:07 AM
Dec 2016

And in my book, OFTEN is too much.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
47. YOU made the charge
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:17 AM
Dec 2016

Often or always - doesn't really matter since YOU conveyed you have oodles of examples. I asked for more than 1 (as did other posters) and now you're laying it on us to google rather than back up your post. That's pretty pathetic.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
53. So you got nothing
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

but one bullshit example that doesn't really prove a thing. Just what I suspected. I couldn't really ask for better confirmation than you throwing it back on others to do YOUR work for you. YOU made the charge, it's up to YOU to back it up.

brush

(57,495 posts)
59. As I said, I don't work for you. For Schumer to say "I don't want this to be another Benghazi . . .
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:55 AM
Dec 2016

was not a good start. He should want just as many hearings on the Russians hack the election as the repugs held on Benghazi.

Be strong about it, no soft-peddling.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
60. Now you're just flailing
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:01 PM
Dec 2016

It was OBVIOUS he meant it shouldn't be another bullshit, partisan 14 investigations to find absolutely nothing hearing. He wants an ACTUAL hearing - not the bullshit we got from the the benghazi imbeciles. So fucking obvious to anyone without a pathetic anti-democratic agenda, that is.

brush

(57,495 posts)
62. He should've said that. And stop with the ad hominem stuff.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:10 PM
Dec 2016

I can and will make my opinions known when I disagree.

I've seen your screen name many times and I've sure you've seen mine. I've agreed with you on some issues and disagreed on others but never went gutter-level by saying you have an anti-democratic agenda.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
63. No - I don't take note of screen names ever
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:17 PM
Dec 2016

If you don't want pushback, don't make unsupportable accusations against a senator. That doesn't seem to be much to ask.

brush

(57,495 posts)
30. Google his position on Netanyahu pulling that crap against the Obama by appearing before Congress
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:08 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:50 AM - Edit history (1)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
36. Or you could post one thing six times as evidence he "always" fails....
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:50 AM
Dec 2016

To meet YOUR expectations on ONE issue that has nothing to do with the GOP.

HA

brush

(57,495 posts)
39. Nothing to do with the GOP? Who do you think invited Netayahu?
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:53 AM
Dec 2016

IMO that's a pretty good indication of what we're in store for.

I hope I'm wrong and he leads the Dems to use the filibuster.

brush

(57,495 posts)
45. OK, I should have said OFTEN, but forget the constituents thing, Most New Yorkers . . .
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:15 AM
Dec 2016

including most Jewish New Yorkers, were against the nasty, unprecedented repug/Netayahu insult of President Obama.

IMO, not a good resume item for a Dem leader.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
48. unless you had a list of things to point to... instead of repeating one thing that's debatable
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:18 AM
Dec 2016

brush

(57,495 posts)
49. It's not debatable that he urged Dems to attend the Netayahu debacle
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:20 AM
Dec 2016

And as for others, you can google, right?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
50. His constituents are heavily pro-Israel whether you approve or not...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:22 AM
Dec 2016

But you are twisting it into something else entirely.
That's as honest as the "always" crap.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
55. I am also from NY and it's always been a pro-Ireal stronghold. Sounds like you're a one issue voter.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:36 AM
Dec 2016

Since you think this one thing makes him sooo very always bad!

brush

(57,495 posts)
57. Giving an example does not make one a one-issue voter
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:50 AM
Dec 2016

Shumer will be tested. Let's see it he has it in him to lead the Dems to use the filibuster against Trump's agenda.

I hope so, but IMO, "not wanting this to become another Benghazi" was not a good start, a poor choice of words.

Hell, I want as many hearings on this as the repugs held on Benghazi. It's that important and shouldn't be soft-peddled.

brush

(57,495 posts)
61. Didn't I concede to you I should have said "often". God, you're a pitbull with the "always".
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:02 PM
Dec 2016

Get to the real issue of Schumer not coming out strongly in favor of investigating the Russian hacking thoroughly.

If he meant he wanted it out of the House, say that, not some wishy-washy "I don't want it to become another Benghazi" bs which can be easily misunderstood.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
26. Why? Because schumer thinks a bipartisan or non partisan
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:33 AM
Dec 2016

Group is better at handling this, than house committees chaired by republicans??

brush

(57,495 posts)
10. I had a feeling Schumer would be too accomodating to the repugs. Backs down too easily
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:42 PM
Dec 2016

If the Russians installing their chosen candidate into the White House, what does it fu_king take for him to want a full-scale investigation like Watergate?

He bears watching.

Forget like Benghazi though, as that was nothing but a repug, showboat scam they kept going to damage Hillary.

Squinch

(52,739 posts)
12. If you read the article, his comment was about the fact that it is bipartisan and serious
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:46 PM
Dec 2016

and not an obvious bullshit partisan waste of everyone's time.

brush

(57,495 posts)
20. We'll see what he means. I'm from New York and am familiar with Schumer.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:57 PM
Dec 2016

We really need him to conquer his tendency to cave and use the filibuster like the repugs did when the big SCOTUS votes come up.

Response to pbmus (Original post)

Crunchy Frog

(26,977 posts)
19. Sadly, I wouldn't count on it. The numbers will be against us in the Senate
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:51 PM
Dec 2016

and we're more than likely to lose seats. Most of the House seats are so gerrymandered as to be safe. We should be focusing more on state level races in 2018 IMO. Not as "sexy", but very important, and more likely to be successful.

Nice fantasy, though. The whole lot of them in Gitmo getting waterboarded would suit me just fine.

Crunchy Frog

(26,977 posts)
17. Why the fuck not?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:34 PM
Dec 2016

Because the Democrats are just supposed to take it and take it and take it, and never dish it out? Are we even sure that he's really a Democrat?

Way to make our party completely irrelevent.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
21. Benghazi was a partisan shitshow that obscured the issue to the point that no one cared about...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:21 AM
Dec 2016

the core lessons from the attack.

I don't want the Russia Inquiry turning into the Benghazi Investigation either.

NewJeffCT

(56,840 posts)
43. Can Democrats even start an investigation on their own?
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:13 AM
Dec 2016

if they're in the minority?

And, Benghazi was a Bullshit scandal in the first place - one investigation was justified because an ambassador died, but not anything more than that. But, 8 or 9 investigations was just to rile up their base and drag Clinton's name through the mud each time.

BainsBane

(54,771 posts)
46. Yes, they can hold them
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:16 AM
Dec 2016

but it won't carry the authority of the Senate or House. I'm assuming that means they won't have subpoena power. McConnell and Ryan have said they want to look into the problem though.

Cha

(305,406 posts)
44. omg.. stop pullling the "both sides do it" chuck
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:15 AM
Dec 2016

Do you not see the difference? Allow Hillary and President Obama to explain it to you.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
54. He associated the two...he went there
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:32 AM
Dec 2016

Thoroughly disappointed in this.

Is this our best advocate? Schumer?

FUCK!!!

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