2016 Postmortem

madaboutharry

(41,354 posts) Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:18 PM Dec 2016

Michael Moore said a lot of worrisome things on The Last Word.

He was on tonight with Lawrence O'Donnell and spoke of his belief that Trump's laziness and incompetence will bring another horrible attack to the country. I also think that the people around him, so many who are as ill suited as he is to serve, are going to screw everything up right along with him. I am afraid that Moore may be right.

When George Bush became president I was angry. Now I am fearful, a fear the sits on my shoulder all day and actually is affecting my life.

I have little hope that the electors have the courage to refuse to vote for him. They are being shaken down in mob style bulling by people working in Trump transition team.

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Michael Moore said a lot of worrisome things on The Last Word. (Original Post) madaboutharry Dec 2016 OP

I'm 'shaking them down' also, for whatever good that will do pangaia Dec 2016 #1

I am sure that you aren't madaboutharry Dec 2016 #3

OHH YOU ARE WELL READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Dec 2016 #4

Actually, I like movies with Al Pacino in them. madaboutharry Dec 2016 #6

Oh, wait.. Maybe I over-- something pangaia Dec 2016 #9

No. The Godfather by Mario Puzzo. Raster Dec 2016 #12

i think Mike Pence is doing what the President would in that area. the bigger problem would be he JI7 Dec 2016 #2

I feel as you do - we are threatened from within as well as vulnerable from outside as you say. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #5

This is perhaps the worst danger to the US since the civil war... pangaia Dec 2016 #10

I saw that. kentuck Dec 2016 #7

Resign? Ha. He will be impeached though. 6 months. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #16

I don't believe they are being shaken down into fear. duffyduff Dec 2016 #8

I wonder if the fear we feel is half as bad as Trump voter's fears of Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #11

One is based in reality, the other is La-La Land. See La-La Land, now in theatres. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #18

At this point, I really don't care what MM has to say. duffyduff Dec 2016 #13

Yep, his sell by date is long past. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #14

not true AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #15

van jones works for CNN, he was right the first time when he said whitelash and numbers show that to JI7 Dec 2016 #19

There are a lot of Trump Towers around the world that I hope will act like lightening rods for TeamPooka Dec 2016 #17

Let's not fool ourselves, Michael Moore is as happy as a pig in shit right now. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #20

Michael Moore never supported Trump. Ever. Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #21

Michael Moore repeatedly went on-air ahead of the election BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #22

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

1. I'm 'shaking them down' also, for whatever good that will do

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:20 PM

Dec 2016

But I suspect MM is right...

madaboutharry

(41,354 posts)

3. I am sure that you aren't

Reply to pangaia (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:23 PM

Dec 2016

threatening to put a horse's head in their beds.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

4. OHH YOU ARE WELL READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:25 PM

Dec 2016

I am impressed OH, YES, I am !!!

madaboutharry

(41,354 posts)

6. Actually, I like movies with Al Pacino in them.

Reply to pangaia (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:27 PM

Dec 2016

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

9. Oh, wait.. Maybe I over-- something

Reply to madaboutharry (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:33 PM

Dec 2016

I was thinking of Gunther Grass' THE TIN DRUM..

Raster

(20,999 posts)

12. No. The Godfather by Mario Puzzo.

Reply to pangaia (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:53 PM

Dec 2016

JI7

(90,526 posts)

2. i think Mike Pence is doing what the President would in that area. the bigger problem would be he

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:22 PM

Dec 2016

intentionally goes against doing the right thing because it would hurt his personal profits. he would go against pence and some others also.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,500 posts)

5. I feel as you do - we are threatened from within as well as vulnerable from outside as you say.

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:27 PM

Dec 2016

In my 60 years, this to me is as politically (as in the impact of the current politics on not only our, but the world's welfare) pessimistic as I've ever been.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

10. This is perhaps the worst danger to the US since the civil war...

Reply to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:35 PM

Dec 2016

kentuck

(112,767 posts)

7. I saw that.

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:28 PM

Dec 2016

Michael is as worried as the rest of us.

Trump needs to resign immediately, the sooner the better.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)

16. Resign? Ha. He will be impeached though. 6 months.

Reply to kentuck (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:06 AM

Dec 2016

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)

8. I don't believe they are being shaken down into fear.

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:30 PM

Dec 2016

These people are stupid partisan Republicans, and they are just giddy at the prospect of total control of D.C. They don't give a SHIT Trump is a Russian puppet. They just don't.

By voting for Trump and not the popular vote winner, they are just as treasonous as Twitler.

Jean-Jacques Roussea

(475 posts)

11. I wonder if the fear we feel is half as bad as Trump voter's fears of

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:39 PM

Dec 2016

powerful black men, fictitious sharia law, zombie-esque hordes of immigrant rapists, and Hillary taking their guns/penises

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)

18. One is based in reality, the other is La-La Land. See La-La Land, now in theatres.

Reply to Jean-Jacques Roussea (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:10 AM

Dec 2016

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)

13. At this point, I really don't care what MM has to say.

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:09 AM

Dec 2016

He peddled the fiction about the aggrieved blue collar guys who voted for Trump because of the economy, which has been debunked as a pile of SHIT. They voted the same reasons all of the rest of the Trump voters did: immigration and Muslims, i.e., bigotry.

I just don't care what he has to say anymore.

DURHAM D

(32,835 posts)

14. Yep, his sell by date is long past.

Reply to duffyduff (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:13 AM

Dec 2016

AlexSFCA

(6,270 posts)

15. not true

Reply to duffyduff (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:42 AM

Dec 2016

Go watch the MessyTruth by Van Jones, immigration wasn't top priority for those voters. There are people who voted twice for Obama, switched to trump this time cause he cared to visit their towns and talked directly about the jobs.

Immigration was more of an issue for Florida voters and the west. We need to start brainstorming how to better connect with those voters if we want them to switch back in the next election. Right now we are alienating then even more. That what worries me the most about the future of democratic party.

JI7

(90,526 posts)

19. van jones works for CNN, he was right the first time when he said whitelash and numbers show that to

Reply to AlexSFCA (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:15 AM

Dec 2016

be the case.

a couple people here and there don't say much. there are people who voted hillary that did not vote for hillary also. the numbers are small.

but the trump numbers were largely bigots.

TeamPooka

(25,273 posts)

17. There are a lot of Trump Towers around the world that I hope will act like lightening rods for

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:09 AM

Dec 2016

the terrorists so they avoid domestic attacks for softer targets overseas.

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)

20. Let's not fool ourselves, Michael Moore is as happy as a pig in shit right now.

Reply to madaboutharry (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:18 AM

Dec 2016

He's finally relevant again. The 8 years of nothingness imposed on him by a Democratic president is over. No wonder he openly rooted for Trump before the election.

Fuck this fraud and his whole faction. Anti-Democrats like Moore should find the door and use it.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)

21. Michael Moore never supported Trump. Ever.

Reply to BobbyDrake (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:42 AM

Dec 2016

He predicted Trump would win the election. And he was dead right about that.

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)

22. Michael Moore repeatedly went on-air ahead of the election

Reply to Dave Starsky (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:23 AM

Dec 2016

and worked to drive down Democratic participation with doom-and-gloom bullshit. He wasn't our ally, because it didn't serve his interests to be one. It served his interests for Trump, the subject of Moore's recent new documentary, to get elected.

He's ten gallons of shitbag in a five-gallon hat.

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