2016 Postmortem

DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:27 PM Dec 2016

Conservatives' Special Revisionist Math: Trump Won Popular Vote If You Nix CA!

Some conservative publications have taken to arguing this week that the President-elect did much better on Election Day than his nearly 3 million-vote deficit suggests—if only certain liberal cities and states were completely discounted from the popular vote total.

By far, the most popular target for wholesale disenfranchisement in these thought experiments is California. Clinton won the state’s popular vote by more than 4.2 million, according to a tally by the Cook Political Report, which is an even larger margin than her nationwide popular vote lead, which was nearly 2.9 million.

The Daily Mail headlined an article which was later featured on the Drudge Report Wednesday: “Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York.”

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Such a feat of revisionism belies the fact that California is the nation’s most populous state (New York is fourth) and is home to more than one in eight Americans who voted for president in 2016, per the Cook Political Report.

Other outlets took a similar tack: “It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California,” Investors Business Daily declared on Saturday. Joe Walsh, the former Republican congressman-turned-shock jock, amplified the IBD article Sunday on Twitter and wrote “I know California is a state & we have to count it, but if you remove CA, Trump won the popular vote by 1.4 million.”

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Conservatives' Special Revisionist Math: Trump Won Popular Vote If You Nix CA! (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP

maggot cannot change actual history MFM008 Dec 2016 #1

I know. If we discounted TN, MS and AL she would have won by 4.5 million. Idiots!! Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #2

this and that the 2.8 million extra were all illegals treestar Dec 2016 #3

well in that case california can take its votes and leave. it will move up from 6th biggest economy msongs Dec 2016 #4

Yeah cuz california let millions of non-citizens vote MindPilot Dec 2016 #5

And how much would Hillary have won by if you lose all those low-ass populated red states? BlueStater Dec 2016 #6

And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride... CTyankee Dec 2016 #7

In my last year of high school math, way... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #8

oh this will become the narrative going forward. n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #9

It is amazing that Trump didn't win a single state by more than 1 million votes Yupster Dec 2016 #10

MFM008

(20,000 posts)

1. maggot cannot change actual history

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:31 PM

Dec 2016

............

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)

2. I know. If we discounted TN, MS and AL she would have won by 4.5 million. Idiots!!

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:32 PM

Dec 2016

treestar

(82,383 posts)

3. this and that the 2.8 million extra were all illegals

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:33 PM

Dec 2016

is what they tell themselves. Delusional.

msongs

(70,172 posts)

4. well in that case california can take its votes and leave. it will move up from 6th biggest economy

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:34 PM

Dec 2016

a few notches higher since the US (number one) will not have CA worth and value included anymore

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)

5. Yeah cuz california let millions of non-citizens vote

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 04:17 PM

Dec 2016

And many of them were dead. Did you know that it was actually Mexico who hacked the election?

Yep...it's true. Saw with my own eyes over at that other site. See for yourself!!

To: Ragnar54
Correct. Trump did not campaign in California, New York or Illinois, knowing he could not win these states. Had he campaigned there he would have garnered a higher percentage of their votes, likely enough to put him over the top. He also would have very strongly questioned the illegal vote in California, certainly large enough to skew the state’s majority.

7 posted on 12/21/2016, 9:33:58 AM by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: Ragnar54
The popular vote of each individual state is what matters, not the total national vote count.

Donald won more state popular votes that Heellary did, thus he is president, and she is not.

Donald was playing chess, Heellary was playing checkers. She lost, but that isn’t surprising, because if she mastered one thing in her life, it’s failure.

And now the Democrats want to change the rules of the game to the game that they were playing.

Don’t think so.

8 posted on 12/21/2016, 9:34:41 AM by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
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To: Ragnar54
Millions of Mexicans voting in My Country’s election cost Trump the popular vote.

9 posted on 12/21/2016, 9:35:48 AM by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Ragnar54
Trump won. The media better get used to it. Winning is sweet!
10 posted on 12/21/2016, 9:36:04 AM by IC Ken
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To: comebacknewt
He probably did win the popular vote of living American citizens in those states. But the Democrats had the advantage of millions of dead and illegal voters.

11 posted on 12/21/2016, 9:37:00 AM by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy and Al Qaeda's financier)
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Why does evolution seem to favor stupidity?

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)

6. And how much would Hillary have won by if you lose all those low-ass populated red states?

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 04:33 PM

Dec 2016

There's more people in California than Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, the two Dakotas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Alaska combined. It's not even close.

CTyankee

(65,021 posts)

7. And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride...

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Wed Dec 21, 2016, 05:12 PM

Dec 2016

3catwoman3

(25,440 posts)

8. In my last year of high school math, way...

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 05:38 PM

Dec 2016

...back when, I remember learning about imaginary numbers, like the square root of -1. Impossible in real life.

Those must be the kind of numbers the Trumpsters are using.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)

9. oh this will become the narrative going forward. n/t.

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Wed Dec 21, 2016, 06:52 PM

Dec 2016

Yupster

(14,308 posts)

10. It is amazing that Trump didn't win a single state by more than 1 million votes

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:17 PM

Dec 2016

He was very efficient with his votes.

Give his campaign manager, pollster, travel guy credit where it's due.

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