Trying to convince them of the same thing.

This is when our empathy needs to be on fleek

their vote, isn't already aware enough for this sort of introspection.

Not buying.

Few Trump voters will EVER admit they were wrong, no matter how bad things get.

You did not have to be educated to see the hateful bIle Trump spewed was wrong and realize that this Billionaire Populist was a fraud.

When the GOP said "Let the auto industry go bankrupt", but President Obama said no and bailed it out, you did not need a college degree to see who was on your side.

When the President gave us Obama Care and the GOP tried to gut it 30 + times without offer an alternative, you did not have to read poltical theory to know one group sided with the insurance companies and the other was trying to help people.

STUPID.

Perfect victims for the propaganda. Fox tells them how things are, minorities are dangerous, immigrants taking the jobs, terrorist are working with Obama, whatever. But they swallow it hook, line, and sinker, and it is no accident. The slant on the stories is always designed to make the viewer angry and afraid. It keeps them watching for hours and very useful in opinion control, they manipulate opinion with their BS stories.

If we want to get these Americans back on track we have to be able to bust up the media and enforce some standards in journalism. Separate the ad departments from the news departments would be a nice start.

I know none of this means crap for as long as we are plagued by Trump. This is what explains how they can get this guy to vote against his interest. They brainwashed his ass!

That is why us libtards must be vilified so much, so they will not even listen to what we have to say!

He had enough time to do the research. Said he voted against his own interests THREE TIMES ?? And it just dawned on him now. Wow.

... where candidates rely on "whistle-stop campaigns", making speeches from the back of a train in hopes of reaching out to voters.

We have the internet. There is NO excuse for being an ill-informed voter. "The candidate didn't campaign in my area" is NO excuse. "I didn't really understand what the candidate stood for" is NO excuse. "I didn't know that the guy I voted for plans to take away my Obamacare coverage" is NO excuse.

And "I voted the way my church faith-leaders directed me" is THE most pitiful excuse imaginable.

attention is a reason working class ppl vote rethug.

So is racism and sexism.

The question is, i think, is there anything we can do to change it, other than the slow game of waiting for demographics to change?

I think IRV is something that would allow rhe idealists to register their displeasure by voting third party, while at the same time helping a dem get in rather than throwing away their vote. It gets brought up fdom time to ti.e but never holds interest. I don't know how we'd ever get it, though. It's about as likelyas getting rid of the EC.

I know prejudiced attitudes can be corrected on an individual basis, but i can't see how we would attack it large scale.

We should have learned the lesson from this election that relying solely on firing up the base leaves precious little margin for error, seeing as how trumps margi s in his swing state victories were small.

What do tou think we should do?

……complicit with keeping the country ignorant. It's not just FOX.

Not mine. Not the Democrats. Not really the Republicans. But his own fault.

I just wish that only those who voted for Trump could be the recipients of no more ACA, cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. Losing their jobs to even more outsourcing. Unfortunately, we all get to suffer equally from those things.

I have nothing but contempt for people like him. It was HIS responsibility to inform himself about the issues before casting his vote.

And he's a union member, clearly oblivious to the benefits unions have given all of us. Maybe he could move to China and get a job in a factory where they have nets so that the employees there who jump off to kill themselves can't even do that. Maybe then he'd begin to comprehend what unions have accomplished.

Oh, and I sincerely hope he has a pre-existing condition that means he can't get healthcare under whatever the new system is, and that he dies a painful, lingering death.

And no, I'm not remotely ashamed of what I've posted. People like him deserve it, because he did not give a flying fuck about anyone else until the last week or two.

He didn't give a flying fuck about anyone else. But, OMG! Now that HE'S at risk of losing HIS healthcare? Woah! Now it's personal. Well, fuck him, and everyone else like him who didn't care about anyone else, but who suddenly cares because it's personal.

The selfishness is truly monstrous.

One of them has heart disease and celiac disease, very bad. He takes of all his sick days every year, about 25, and must cost the insurance company a fortune. Imalways tell him, "If we lose the union and yenure, you are the first to go." H says the administration would NEVER do that. I just laugh wickedly nowadays and walk away.

Or as the Irish would say, what a feckin idjit.

This man really does have health issues, the exact sort of thing he needs sick days AND good health care for. I really wish he'd be thrown to the wolves, tossed out to fend for himself on the open market. He'd FINALLY understand what "pre-existing" condition actually means, not only for him but for many millions of others.

I want to scream. Is he really that dense he can't see that he'd lose all the good wages and benefits he's worked so hard for in a split second if his party gets their way? (Answer: yes).

Its the same thing I hear constantly from Trump supporters. They refuse to believe that anything that would affect them directly will be done by the trump administration. Oh no they wont take my medicare or social security, etc... im not sure what gives them this reassurance.

scumbaggery. Not to mention, toothless Internet tuff guy braggadocio doesn't accompliah anything vut make people laugh at you.

Becoming what you claim to hate is no way to win, and the rethugs are better at hatred than you are.

This jerk doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone else. He doesn't care if others die miserably because they don't have health care. Why should I wish anything better for him?

[Im not saying we need to like em.

We need to meet them at their level, because that's the only thing they understand.

So all those Trump voters who are now shocked, just shocked to learn they may lose health care coverage, or that the minimum wage may be cut, do not deserve one ounce of sympathy. They need to be mocked and vilified for being so fucking stupid as to vote the way they did.

throw some schoolyard names at them just to be internet-tuff

been happy to throw schoolyard names at us, I think they need to be on the receiving end for a while. Maybe think real hard about "treating others the way you'd want to be treated."

We've long been on the receiving end of that, especially with the truly vile things that have been said about President Obama, his wife, and daughters. And even at our collective worst, we will come nowhere near the offensive garbage they've come up with.

that post stinks to high heaven of some troll trying for a sick joke.

I'm neither laughing, nor feeling a lot of sympathy or empathy with the writer of that FB post.

Not buying it.

convincing.

I'm not knocking anyone trying this tactic to reach people.

And actually used phrases like voted against his own self interests. That is just so neat!

Cool story.

But he is going to have to live with the consequences of this tragedy. We all are.

There were 3 debates

he probably was misinformed. That's what they do.

Limbaugh even said that polls like USC/LATimes that predicted a popular vote win for Trump were vindicated after the election... despite how Clinton won the popular vote!

That might be the most positive inroad he can make.

This Pope is going in the right direction, hopefully now that he sees that church teachings had a hand in getting tRump over the line he will redouble his efforts at liberalizing church doctrine and communicating this down the line.

Because of "pro-life justices." That's the ONLY issue to those people.

on supposed concern for others.

Sad that we lose so very much in exchange.

"I am not stupid." Everything--everything he said and did leading up to his vote was obviously, horribly, almost criminally stupid: he voted the way his "church faith-leaders" directed him; he watched Fox News exclusively. Did he never hear of the Internet? Or, lacking access to that, newspapers, other channels? It's nobody's fault but his that he was "uninformed and unaware" and (get this!) "deceived."

He sleepwalked through the election. What he can do now, since he asks, is to join those of us who plan to resist at every opportunity. Get involved. Write to his Congresspeople. Join the Democratic party and volunteer for it.

Above all, stop being stupid!

in the months-long lead-up to the election? Was it only when he realized the now-unfettered GOP would be able to abolish the ACA, as they have been trying to do with dozens of votes ever since it was passed, that he saw a problem? I don't get what it is that he suddenly understands, other than that his own personal situation may be affected. And since he is a veteran, he could receive his healthcare through the VA, so even that sounds odd.

He said he wasn't that political but did what hos church leaders told him to.

And that my friends is why churches should be TAXED.

Or a bigot. Simple as that.

The man was a legit birther FFS.

Take away his celebrity and enormous bank balance, and Trump is no different than the morons who attend his rallies.

If this is real. it would be very useful to know what changed his mind so quickly.

Look at the rest of his page.

FOX News is a misinformation machine.

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Russia has paid troll armies posting smack about Democrats.

Republicans do it for free.

It's time for Democrats and Liberals to fight back. For free.

This wasn't very convincing. But with a bit of tweaking, it would sound better.

Spare me the outrage fellow DU'ers. Human beings are hardwired to love narratives and story-telling.

It convinces people in a way that a rational argument does. And that goes for ALL of us. Liberals, Conservatives and FOX zombies.

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