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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:29 AM Dec 2016

4 things Democrats need to do (plus 1 they shouldn't) to rebuild in 2017

4 things Democrats need to do (plus 1 they shouldn't) to rebuild in 2017
Mara Liasson
Minnesota Public Radio

But most Democrats agree on one thing: They need an economic message.

Hillary Clinton didn't have one. The Democrats' dilemma is sometimes described as a choice between appealing to their young, multicultural base or to white, working-class voters. But most Democrats believe that's a false choice.

They need a message on the economy that cuts across class and racial lines, that can appeal to the young person saddled with college debt and the union worker (or former union worker) whose plant has moved to Mexico.

Many Trump supporters were once Obama voters, and Democrats say they can win enough of those voters back if they focus their message on bread-and-butter issues. As one Democratic operative summed it up, "More emphasis on jobs, less on transgender bathrooms."

Democrats need to develop their own nationalist economic message without the nativism.


Yep, we need a economic message. Nope, transgender bathrooms is all of our issue.
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4 things Democrats need to do (plus 1 they shouldn't) to rebuild in 2017 (Original Post) portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
Our message was good. What we needed was for Russia to keep their shraby Dec 2016 #1
Clinton had an economic message. The media chose not to cover it. lapucelle Dec 2016 #2
+1000 baldguy Dec 2016 #3
Bingo! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #4
People need to beleive that we are for big changes in trade policiy. RDANGELO Dec 2016 #5
BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!!! COMEY, Voter Suppression and RUSSIA !! Everything else is guessing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6
x1000 libtodeath Dec 2016 #8
Mara Liasson...... really? DURHAM D Dec 2016 #7
"Transgender bathrooms is all of our issue"??? mcar Dec 2016 #9
You think Democratic candidates wanted to discriminate against transgender people? portlander23 Dec 2016 #10
Way to turn my post around mcar Dec 2016 #11
I most certainly did not portlander23 Dec 2016 #12
I misunderstood your statement mcar Dec 2016 #13
why this "nativism" word ploy? heaven05 Dec 2016 #14
"most Democrats believe that's a false choice."..... BINGO! jack_krass Dec 2016 #15

shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. Our message was good. What we needed was for Russia to keep their
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:35 AM
Dec 2016

hackers out of our election and for comey to go piss up a rope.

edited to add.
We also need to toss all the voting machines in the ocean and let them be used for coral growth and go back to paper ballots. That should be the first order of business, bar none.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
4. Bingo!
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:43 AM
Dec 2016

Everytime she started talking about her economic message, they cut either to Donald Trump's rally or back to the studio so the talking heads could tell us about Donald Trump's rally and Hillary's lack of an economic message.

To the press, the fact that any economic discussion beyond "I'm gonna make America great again" bored them to tears meant that there was no message.

RDANGELO

(3,555 posts)
5. People need to beleive that we are for big changes in trade policiy.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:46 AM
Dec 2016

That is why Trump did so well in the rust belt. Not just tinkering, big changes. People didn't believe Hillary.

mcar

(43,504 posts)
9. "Transgender bathrooms is all of our issue"???
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:10 AM
Dec 2016

What election were you following? It surely wasn't our Democratic candidate's.

mcar

(43,504 posts)
11. Way to turn my post around
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:14 AM
Dec 2016

Please show me how HRC did not focus on the economy. You claimed that bathrooms were our only issue.

 

portlander23

(2,078 posts)
12. I most certainly did not
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:17 AM
Dec 2016

I agree with the article that the party needs an economic message. And I disagree with Democratic operative quoted in the article that the party should not speak out about discrimination against transgender people.

If that's an offensive thing to say at DU, please, bring down the ban-hammer.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. why this "nativism" word ploy?
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:45 AM
Dec 2016

It's racism, WHITE supremacism. That's why people are getting lulled and starting to say, I've heard it, "oh it might not be so bad"..... Trying to play nice with words that don't describe the reality upcoming in the next four years. GET REAL......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But maybe you don't think you have much to worry about, maybe? And I cannot believe that "many trump supporters once supported Obama" no matter the disinformation being spoon fed, by our compliant and complicit enabling MSM, to many here and there.

The truth is White racist people DID NOT believe in 2008 that an Obama could become POTUS, let alone be voted in twice so they stayed lazy because of that belief and the foxsnooze and Mcconnoll lies telling all them that an AA was a one term POTUS.

This time HRC and the lies spread about her by MSM and COMEY spooked many, many racist, sexists(interchangeable) out of their lethargy and they crawled their lazy asses of their couches, raised their confederate flags at the behest of someone they respect, cause "he tells it like it is", which is that they are afraid of losing their white privileged status to the belief that equality belongs to all americans. Yet they along with 8% AA, 30% Latino, 61% white women and 19% Asian-american voted to believe the lies and propaganda to keep the qualified woman out of 1600 in favor of the hero of the racist white male.

Wasn't no goddamn jobs that got these lazy asses of their couch!!!! First a black man, then a woman at 1600?????....they said this time "oh hell no". I would prefer a racist, xenophobic, sexist anti-semite to 25 years of political experience, both nationally and internationally to a clown with not one iota or minute in political experience, just because she is a woman...that's deplorable in levels of ignorance and stupidity not seen in a couple of generations since white racists were lynching AA wholesale in this schizoid culture. Oh yeah, "he's going to shake things up alright" in an already white male dominated culture.....

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