2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHouse Speaker Paul Ryan Just Linked Directly To Russian Election Hacking
The presidential election victory of Donald Trump may not be the only thing made illegitimate by Russian tampering. It seems that the GOP congressional majority may also be called into question thanks to our Russian friends (?).
According to the New York Times:
The impact of the information released by the hackers on candidates like Ms. Taddeo in Florida and others in nearly a dozen House races around the country was largely lost in the focus on the hacking attacks against the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clintons presidential campaign. But this untold story underscores the effect the Russian operation had on the American electoral system.[
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http://www.bluedotdaily.com/house-speaker-paul-ryan-just-linked-directly-to-russian-election-hacking/
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)something up with Russia. This is all getting just a bit too weird to explain away anymore. There was smoke, now there is fire IMO.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Trump couldn't keep his fat mouth shut about it during the debate.
Some of these treasonous criminal bastards knew about it and couldn't even contain themselves
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Today, nothing. I don't even know what country I live in anymore. In my books it's totally falling apart with this last election. This crap is incredible!!!
onenote
(44,773 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)whathehell
(29,853 posts)pbmus
(12,444 posts)madaboutharry
(41,384 posts)He lies, he cheats, and he takes credit for things he didn't do. He was on television bragging about something big happening right before his friend James Comey put out the "Huma has emails from Hillary" letter. I have no doubt Rudy got Comey to write that letter. Rudy is a shit person.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Gingrich, Christie, even Cheney is out. All the old creeps coming back. And I thought we got rid of them years ago. The Iraq war, nuclear weapons, I think it's in 1984, the point of war and weapons is to waste resources that would otherwise go to the people. And to make a few extremely wealthy. Halliburton for one.
Rex
(65,616 posts)to the GOP? Part of it is they will use and discard anyone that can help push their agenda.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)what's going on and how they are being used.
Rex
(65,616 posts)People are kept that way for a good reason. It is not they don't get it, they swim in the fake news swill. Their minds fill up with fake reality and reality TV. All for the purpose of keeping them stupid.
Billions pour into the coffers to keep people high in the clouds with conspiracies theories from people like Alex Jones. It works.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)is frighting so many listen to and believe in this guy, as he rakes in millions. Damn, Americans, millions, are so ignorant.
rickford66
(5,691 posts)He spouts so much nonsense that when the GOP pulls a fast one, we're conditioned to believe it's more nonsense. Since we've been told for ages that Liberals are Commies, what's the problem with Trump's relation to Putin? He's just saying he's a strong leader etc ....
pbmus
(12,444 posts)Turbineguy
(38,466 posts)get their Mothers hooked on crack and send them out onto the street to make a living.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)something wrong and quite sinister about republicans.
NBachers
(18,181 posts)destroying those who could help us lift ourselves up. They are the personification of evil.
triron
(22,240 posts)just presidential race.
I totally agree with another one of your other posts but I'll not name it in the interest of discretion.
dflprincess
(28,514 posts)that did this and that no voting machines (particularly those with no paper backup) were hacked?
triron
(22,240 posts)i.e. I believe they were hacked.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)This is going to get ugly real quick.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)With UN poll watchers to ensure we have fair elections this time.
pbmus
(12,444 posts)True_Blue
(3,063 posts)No clue. It feels like we're helpless against this coup. I'm simply exhausted signing petititions and sending emails. Our lawmakers need to stop this, but it looks like Putin owns most of them too.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)invasive force in the US, but it just gets ho hum, move along. ... as they vacation and the country is usurped.
triron
(22,240 posts)without knowledge of poll watchers. So can registration files.
OldYallow
(90 posts)Counted By hand. Zero other option
oasis
(51,749 posts)Fuck CNN, NBC and all the networks wanting to be first with the results.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)While it is certainly true that they are electronically read, they can be hand read as well. The electronics are thoroughly vetted before and after the vote. i.e. precincts will be randomly hand counted to verify electronic count.
lancelyons
(988 posts)Just wondering if this is Legit. It sounds like it but its not being covered on other outlets like CNN, politico, etc.
I am not sure what the credibility of bluedotdaily is.
One think we cant start doing is reporting fake news about republicans making it look like this stuff happens both ways.
pbmus
(12,444 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)pbmus
(12,444 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)to have anything damning in a hackable database.
applegrove
(123,525 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 1, 2017, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)
and results in impeachment. I mean if those DNC robbers during Watergate had released information from their bugs to the Republican party that the party then used, that would have been a crime right? Why is it any different? Sure the GOP pipe up and in a preternaturally relaxed way say "so what?"that is gaslighting just as much as the more emotive and more familiar type of gaslighting. The purpose is to downplay the emotions on the left and center on this issue, but it is gaslighting. Follow your guts Democrats. Follow what you know. Ignore the GOP calling it a nothing burger.
pbmus
(12,444 posts)I don't know whether even our intelligence agencies will be believed anymore with the Big Con questioning everything and everybody... ...he will just double down tomorrow on his not believing the 17 agencies...
Mountain Mule
(1,037 posts)I hope you're correct on that prediction. This country stepped down the rat hole with the "election" of W. I had hoped that the election and re-election of Obama would put us back on the other side of the looking glass, but that hope has proved forlorn with the so-called "election" of orange boy. I simply cannot believe all the crap that's been coming down and the lack of general out cry over it. Since when do you US Presidents go goo-goo eyed over Russian dictators? Each time I think I can't possibly become anymore disgusted, something else happens to prove me wrong.
czarjak
(12,516 posts)Any means necessary? Told ya, been sayin', if ya can't beat em, cheat em.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)we could impeach the whole lot of them and get to Kerry. Just sayin'.
calimary
(84,531 posts)Happy New Year!
pbmus
(12,444 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)With all that is starting to emerge concerning the 2016 General Election, I REALLY stand by my statement that NO Democrat--Not FDR, JFK, Pres. Obama or Bernie could have won this year's presidency with the "tampering" that appears to have gone on.
Hillary was ROBBED of the 45th presidency of the United States of America. I'll go to my grave feeling and thinking this.
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burrowowl
(18,054 posts)but it would be SEDITION!
pbmus
(12,444 posts)uponit7771
(91,948 posts)AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)"And it appears many in Washington have known about the attacks for a while:
After Guccifer 2.0 targeted the chair of the DCCC, New Mexicos Ray Lujan, the Democrats sent a letter to his Republican counterpart on Aug. 29 arguing that the NRCCs use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the United States most dangerous adversaries, and if the National Republican Campaign Committee continued using the materials, the GOP will be complicit in aiding the Russian government in its effort to influence American elections.