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pbmus

(12,444 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:17 PM Dec 2016

House Speaker Paul Ryan Just Linked Directly To Russian Election Hacking

The presidential election victory of Donald Trump may not be the only thing made illegitimate by Russian tampering. It seems that the GOP congressional majority may also be called into question thanks to our Russian friends (?).

According to the New York Times:

The impact of the information released by the hackers on candidates like Ms. Taddeo in Florida and others in nearly a dozen House races around the country was largely lost in the focus on the hacking attacks against the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. But this untold story underscores the effect the Russian operation had on the American electoral system.[…]

http://www.bluedotdaily.com/house-speaker-paul-ryan-just-linked-directly-to-russian-election-hacking/

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House Speaker Paul Ryan Just Linked Directly To Russian Election Hacking (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
It really makes one wonder just how complicit the GOP was in this entire affair. Are they cooking RKP5637 Dec 2016 #1
Rudy new about it elehhhhna Dec 2016 #4
Years ago they would have been before the House Un-American Activities Committee! RKP5637 Dec 2016 #6
years ago progressives recognized that the HUAAC was a dangerous thing onenote Jan 2017 #39
Quite true!!! How short my memory was when I said that!!! Horrible times! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #49
Yes, but so are foreign governments hacking our elections. whathehell Jan 2017 #50
Oh Rudy is a really bad guy.. pbmus Dec 2016 #8
He is a horrible person. madaboutharry Dec 2016 #13
Also notdarkyet Jan 2017 #37
Well we knew they cheated in 2000 and 2004. By now what is helping Russia or China Rex Dec 2016 #5
The country is under siege by a hostile regime and millions of Americans still don't get RKP5637 Dec 2016 #7
Nor will they ever get it. We live in a matrix of appearances. Rex Dec 2016 #14
I turn on Alex Jones, occasionally, to hear what he's spouting off about. He's one crazy guy, but it RKP5637 Dec 2016 #17
The GOP loves guys like Alex jones rickford66 Dec 2016 #27
No truer words have been spoken in 2016... pbmus Dec 2016 #30
The GOP would Turbineguy Dec 2016 #19
The GOP really is a character flaw, one against humanity. Seriously, there is really RKP5637 Dec 2016 #21
I believe this element has always been with us- dragging humanity down, committing atrocities, NBachers Jan 2017 #46
Hacking affected more than triron Dec 2016 #2
Oh hell yes pbmus Dec 2016 #3
btw triron Dec 2016 #11
Does anyone really believe it was just hacked information being released dflprincess Dec 2016 #9
Not me triron Dec 2016 #12
Finally the real story is emerging. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #10
We need new elections True_Blue Dec 2016 #15
Yes, but how do we do that...? pbmus Dec 2016 #16
Great question True_Blue Dec 2016 #25
The crux of the problem is, our lawmakers are part of the problem! There appears to be an RKP5637 Jan 2017 #51
Machines can be hacked triron Dec 2016 #18
Paper ballots OldYallow Dec 2016 #20
Exactly.If it takes two or three days, so be it. oasis Dec 2016 #32
word. if you have referendums in your state, try to get it on the ballot. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #45
NY is the only state that held out from HAVA with paper ballots. Bohunk68 Jan 2017 #52
i this legit? I am not seeing it on other media outlets. lancelyons Dec 2016 #22
Follow the links... pbmus Dec 2016 #23
I never heard of Blue Dot Daily either but if it satisfies one's confirmation bias who cares? nt m-lekktor Dec 2016 #24
Follow the links in the article, nyt, salon... pbmus Dec 2016 #26
According to article, info was taken from DCCC. With today's tech, how can we be that stupid Hoyt Dec 2016 #28
I predict a major investigation that overwhelms the Trump Administration applegrove Dec 2016 #29
Well, the info is already being questioned within this thread.. pbmus Dec 2016 #31
YAY! IMPEACH the SOB! Mountain Mule Jan 2017 #38
Who knew?..... czarjak Jan 2017 #33
In theory, if we could pin something like this on Yertle, KamaAina Jan 2017 #34
Well, how 'bout that. calimary Jan 2017 #35
Happy New Year!!! pbmus Jan 2017 #36
Like I feel and said .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #41
Not war time can't call it treason burrowowl Jan 2017 #43
We are in many wars... pbmus Jan 2017 #44
+1, "Paul Ryan, used the hacked documents to defeat him in the general." uponit7771 Jan 2017 #47
Excerpt from Bluedotdaily.com posted 12/31/16 by Cpowell AmericanActivist Jan 2017 #48
k and r..nt Stuart G Jan 2017 #53
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #54

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. It really makes one wonder just how complicit the GOP was in this entire affair. Are they cooking
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:22 PM
Dec 2016

something up with Russia. This is all getting just a bit too weird to explain away anymore. There was smoke, now there is fire IMO.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
4. Rudy new about it
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:28 PM
Dec 2016

Trump couldn't keep his fat mouth shut about it during the debate.

Some of these treasonous criminal bastards knew about it and couldn't even contain themselves

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
6. Years ago they would have been before the House Un-American Activities Committee!
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:32 PM
Dec 2016

Today, nothing. I don't even know what country I live in anymore. In my books it's totally falling apart with this last election. This crap is incredible!!!

madaboutharry

(41,384 posts)
13. He is a horrible person.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:49 PM
Dec 2016

He lies, he cheats, and he takes credit for things he didn't do. He was on television bragging about something big happening right before his friend James Comey put out the "Huma has emails from Hillary" letter. I have no doubt Rudy got Comey to write that letter. Rudy is a shit person.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
37. Also
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jan 2017

Gingrich, Christie, even Cheney is out. All the old creeps coming back. And I thought we got rid of them years ago. The Iraq war, nuclear weapons, I think it's in 1984, the point of war and weapons is to waste resources that would otherwise go to the people. And to make a few extremely wealthy. Halliburton for one.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Well we knew they cheated in 2000 and 2004. By now what is helping Russia or China
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:30 PM
Dec 2016

to the GOP? Part of it is they will use and discard anyone that can help push their agenda.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
7. The country is under siege by a hostile regime and millions of Americans still don't get
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:35 PM
Dec 2016

what's going on and how they are being used.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Nor will they ever get it. We live in a matrix of appearances.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:52 PM
Dec 2016

People are kept that way for a good reason. It is not they don't get it, they swim in the fake news swill. Their minds fill up with fake reality and reality TV. All for the purpose of keeping them stupid.

Billions pour into the coffers to keep people high in the clouds with conspiracies theories from people like Alex Jones. It works.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
17. I turn on Alex Jones, occasionally, to hear what he's spouting off about. He's one crazy guy, but it
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:04 PM
Dec 2016

is frighting so many listen to and believe in this guy, as he rakes in millions. Damn, Americans, millions, are so ignorant.

rickford66

(5,691 posts)
27. The GOP loves guys like Alex jones
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:47 PM
Dec 2016

He spouts so much nonsense that when the GOP pulls a fast one, we're conditioned to believe it's more nonsense. Since we've been told for ages that Liberals are Commies, what's the problem with Trump's relation to Putin? He's just saying he's a strong leader etc ....

Turbineguy

(38,466 posts)
19. The GOP would
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:15 PM
Dec 2016

get their Mothers hooked on crack and send them out onto the street to make a living.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
21. The GOP really is a character flaw, one against humanity. Seriously, there is really
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:26 PM
Dec 2016

something wrong and quite sinister about republicans.

NBachers

(18,181 posts)
46. I believe this element has always been with us- dragging humanity down, committing atrocities,
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 03:51 AM
Jan 2017

destroying those who could help us lift ourselves up. They are the personification of evil.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
11. btw
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:41 PM
Dec 2016

I totally agree with another one of your other posts but I'll not name it in the interest of discretion.

dflprincess

(28,514 posts)
9. Does anyone really believe it was just hacked information being released
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:39 PM
Dec 2016

that did this and that no voting machines (particularly those with no paper backup) were hacked?

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
25. Great question
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:38 PM
Dec 2016

No clue. It feels like we're helpless against this coup. I'm simply exhausted signing petititions and sending emails. Our lawmakers need to stop this, but it looks like Putin owns most of them too.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
51. The crux of the problem is, our lawmakers are part of the problem! There appears to be an
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jan 2017

invasive force in the US, but it just gets ho hum, move along. ... as they vacation and the country is usurped.


 

triron

(22,240 posts)
18. Machines can be hacked
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:05 PM
Dec 2016

without knowledge of poll watchers. So can registration files.

oasis

(51,749 posts)
32. Exactly.If it takes two or three days, so be it.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:59 PM
Dec 2016

Fuck CNN, NBC and all the networks wanting to be first with the results.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
52. NY is the only state that held out from HAVA with paper ballots.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:22 AM
Jan 2017

While it is certainly true that they are electronically read, they can be hand read as well. The electronics are thoroughly vetted before and after the vote. i.e. precincts will be randomly hand counted to verify electronic count.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
22. i this legit? I am not seeing it on other media outlets.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:29 PM
Dec 2016

Just wondering if this is Legit. It sounds like it but its not being covered on other outlets like CNN, politico, etc.

I am not sure what the credibility of bluedotdaily is.

One think we cant start doing is reporting fake news about republicans making it look like this stuff happens both ways.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
24. I never heard of Blue Dot Daily either but if it satisfies one's confirmation bias who cares? nt
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:38 PM
Dec 2016
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. According to article, info was taken from DCCC. With today's tech, how can we be that stupid
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:51 PM
Dec 2016

to have anything damning in a hackable database.

applegrove

(123,525 posts)
29. I predict a major investigation that overwhelms the Trump Administration
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:53 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Sun Jan 1, 2017, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)

and results in impeachment. I mean if those DNC robbers during Watergate had released information from their bugs to the Republican party that the party then used, that would have been a crime right? Why is it any different? Sure the GOP pipe up and in a preternaturally relaxed way say "so what?"that is gaslighting just as much as the more emotive and more familiar type of gaslighting. The purpose is to downplay the emotions on the left and center on this issue, but it is gaslighting. Follow your guts Democrats. Follow what you know. Ignore the GOP calling it a nothing burger.

pbmus

(12,444 posts)
31. Well, the info is already being questioned within this thread..
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:59 PM
Dec 2016

I don't know whether even our intelligence agencies will be believed anymore with the Big Con questioning everything and everybody... ...he will just double down tomorrow on his not believing the 17 agencies...

Mountain Mule

(1,037 posts)
38. YAY! IMPEACH the SOB!
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jan 2017

I hope you're correct on that prediction. This country stepped down the rat hole with the "election" of W. I had hoped that the election and re-election of Obama would put us back on the other side of the looking glass, but that hope has proved forlorn with the so-called "election" of orange boy. I simply cannot believe all the crap that's been coming down and the lack of general out cry over it. Since when do you US Presidents go goo-goo eyed over Russian dictators? Each time I think I can't possibly become anymore disgusted, something else happens to prove me wrong.

czarjak

(12,516 posts)
33. Who knew?.....
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:12 AM
Jan 2017

Any means necessary? Told ya, been sayin', if ya can't beat em, cheat em.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
34. In theory, if we could pin something like this on Yertle,
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:13 AM
Jan 2017

we could impeach the whole lot of them and get to Kerry. Just sayin'.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
40. Like I feel and said ....
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:57 AM
Jan 2017

With all that is starting to emerge concerning the 2016 General Election, I REALLY stand by my statement that NO Democrat--Not FDR, JFK, Pres. Obama or Bernie could have won this year's presidency with the "tampering" that appears to have gone on.

Hillary was ROBBED of the 45th presidency of the United States of America. I'll go to my grave feeling and thinking this.

Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #40)

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AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
48. Excerpt from Bluedotdaily.com posted 12/31/16 by Cpowell
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:48 AM
Jan 2017

"And it appears many in Washington have known about the attacks for a while:
After Guccifer 2.0 targeted the chair of the DCCC, New Mexico’s Ray Lujan, the Democrats sent a letter to his Republican counterpart on Aug. 29 arguing that “the NRCC’s use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the United States’ most dangerous adversaries,” and if the National Republican Campaign Committee continued using the materials, the GOP “will be complicit in aiding the Russian government in its effort to influence American elections.”

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