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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:21 PM Jul 2012

Obama is running an in-your-face, don't-back-down presidential campaign...

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And the Republicans hate it. They can't fathom a Democrat is beating them at their own game. For so long, they assumed Democrats were light campaigners, jokers, candidates who would retreat at the first sign of adversity. Instead, Obama has turned the tables and put them on the defensive. I don't know if, since Dole, a Republican candidate has ever been on the defensive as much as Romney. He's having to explain every little detail about his past - from Bain, to the mandate to his offshore bank accounts. Instead of playing nice, he's ripped Romney a new one and that hole might not heal by November.

Romney is quickly becoming Dukakis in the sense that his campaign is constantly set back on its heels.

Romney is a lightweight and getting pounded for it. I wonder if Republicans are having second thoughts about nominating him?

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Obama is running an in-your-face, don't-back-down presidential campaign... (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 OP
Finally! xfundy Jul 2012 #1
But the reason those media outlets are close to the GOP WCGreen Jul 2012 #17
Rmoney is an empty suit. No message, no ideas Ishoutandscream2 Jul 2012 #2
Outstanding! He really is doing a great job. MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #3
Well, it's about time! Carla in Sequim Jul 2012 #4
I still believe that... Iceberg Louie Jul 2012 #5
I have no doubt that Obama will win davidpdx Jul 2012 #21
I agree--the RW will not throw in the towel in this election Va Lefty Jul 2012 #29
Prez O is just telling the truth. Lugnut Jul 2012 #6
He gave them just enough rope flamingdem Jul 2012 #7
He sure did. Lugnut Jul 2012 #9
+1 Possibly his long-term strategy is based on this geometric concept: freshwest Jul 2012 #11
It may be that one of the underlying differences between Republicans and Democrats JDPriestly Jul 2012 #13
Short-term thinkers do destructive things quickly that hurt people, but profit them. Hit & Run. freshwest Jul 2012 #15
'He disarmed the Rs by being conciliatory'--right until the debt ceiling deal ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #30
I doubt the Republicans care very much who they nominated DFW Jul 2012 #8
That's exactly what the repukes want--a freakin' PUPPET meow2u3 Jul 2012 #31
the last presidential election the republicans actually won was old man bush madrchsod Jul 2012 #10
When a presidential candidate's handlers have to protect him from the media, you know pacalo Jul 2012 #12
I think Obama has been pretty easy on Romney so far Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #14
Lots of time for that, actually.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #23
To quote Truman... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #16
Spam deleted by Violet_Crumble (MIR Team) Jared Martin Jul 2012 #18
I like it. And if Clinton, Rendell and Booker don't like it, fuck 'em n/t eridani Jul 2012 #19
True that. Bohunk68 Jul 2012 #20
Agree. patrice Jul 2012 #27
On to the Senate fight flamingdem Jul 2012 #22
GOOD ! Stay on OFFENSE and keep BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF THAT ASSHAT RoMONEY. RBInMaine Jul 2012 #24
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #25
MORE! red! meat!!! RRRRRaaaaaaarrrrr!!!! patrice Jul 2012 #26
Bring It SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #28
Romney reminds me of every asshole boss I've ever had demwing Jul 2012 #33
Actually the President is just getting started. After the debates are over the Republicans will grantcart Jul 2012 #32
And I've got his back! Herlong Jul 2012 #34

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
1. Finally!
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jul 2012

Yet he's not fighting dirty, which is all the repigs have. Well, that and an entire "news" network, AM radio, corporate media and endless lies.

This is finally getting interesting.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
17. But the reason those media outlets are close to the GOP
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:34 AM
Jul 2012

is because their demo skews toward the GOP's main voting block, White, Male 45 +, Christian....

Most other demo blocs get their news and information from what was once reffered to as the Alternative News.

That's why I think this election is so important for the GOP because all the media that can be bought doesn't mean diddly shit if more than half the people don't pay that much attention to media that can be bought. This is the big one for the GOP.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,773 posts)
2. Rmoney is an empty suit. No message, no ideas
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jul 2012

He's Dewey 1948 re-incarnated. He lacks substance. He's wooden. He's so damned unlikable. What a shitty candidate.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
3. Outstanding! He really is doing a great job.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jul 2012

Hopefully he'll win then he'll continue the fight after re-election, hopefully this time to *protect* Social Security, to keep the Medicare eligibility age at 65 (or *lower* it), to *reduce* ruinous "free"-trade treaties, to *increase* transparency in government, etc.

Carla in Sequim

(229 posts)
4. Well, it's about time!
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:03 AM
Jul 2012

We need to all get on board now. Let's all ask, and keep asking...Romney, what are you hiding?!"

Also, I'd like to see an ad that says 'Romney invests in foreign businesses, President Obama invests in America."

If we say it long and loud enough, he will have to release his tax returns. And then, it's over.

Willard, what are you hiding?

Iceberg Louie

(190 posts)
5. I still believe that...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:03 AM
Jul 2012

...the top echelon in the GOP has already called this one a loss, and have been setting their sights on 2016 for a couple years now. Rmoney is absolutely the Dukakis/Kerry of this election; the unrelatable Massachusetts stiff with way too many vulnerable areas. If Obama continues staying on message (particularly with the populist angles which have really started gaining traction in the last couple months) and keeps hitting hard, Rmoney has no real advantage. He doesn't have the Hollywood appeal Reagan had, and he surely lacks any semblance of the "guy you'd like to have a beer with" quality that helped Little Bush squeak through 2004 (he definitely doesn't have, to my knowledge, any siblings pulling the strings to hijack a key state). All Rmoney has to fight back with is lots of dirty Koch cash. And I think all the puppetmasters of the GOP really hope to gain from that is to chip at whatever tiny toeholds they can in their own perceived political credibility until they run Christie/Walker in 2016.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. I have no doubt that Obama will win
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:29 AM
Jul 2012

But I disagree with you that they have called it a loss. They are going to scratch, bite, spit and claw their way to the election doing everything possible to win. Several Republican governors in swing states support Romney and they will do whatever they need to in order to deliver their state for him. I would say never underestimate the dirty rotten stinking Republicans, even if their candidate does suck.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
29. I agree--the RW will not throw in the towel in this election
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:20 AM
Jul 2012

They will throw everything they've got at Obama. They know that their base is shrinking (the Republican voter base is white, aging, and dying off. The percentage of the minority population is increasing by the micro-second.) I think this is why they have been so agressive in pushing their agenda in the States where they control the Legislature and the Gov. Manision. With apoligies to the Stones, time is not on their side.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
6. Prez O is just telling the truth.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jul 2012

He disarmed the Repubs by being cooperative and conciliatory and they thought he was a pushover. Not exactly.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. +1 Possibly his long-term strategy is based on this geometric concept:
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:49 AM
Jul 2012

It refers to the arc of a circle of 360 degrees in which morality and justice are part of a circle. MLK spoke of it several times and Obama refered to his version of the saying that was much older:

On April 4, 2008, Senator Barack Obama, speaking on the 40th anniversary of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, declared:

"Dr. King once said that the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. It bends towards justice, but here is the thing: it does not bend on its own. It bends because each of us in our own ways put our hand on that arc and we bend it in the direction of justice..."

http://open.salon.com/blog/arthur_howe/2009/01/18/the_arc_of_the_universe_is_long_but_it_bends_towards_justice

I think Obama is very long-term thinker.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. It may be that one of the underlying differences between Republicans and Democrats
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:39 AM
Jul 2012

is that Republicans think in the short-term while Democrats think in the long-term.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. Short-term thinkers do destructive things quickly that hurt people, but profit them. Hit & Run.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:51 AM
Jul 2012

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
30. 'He disarmed the Rs by being conciliatory'--right until the debt ceiling deal
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 07:01 AM
Jul 2012

the debt ceiling deal, where he showed Republicans they could not count and only getting "only" $30 billion in cuts to the 2012 budget, not the $100 billion they'd promised Teabaggers.

But now the President has no reason to continue humoring Republicans. There's nothing crucial left until after Election Day where there's any hope of getting Republican votes in Congress. The Republicans have gotten exactly what they always wanted, complete obstruction and weak job reports since the strong first quarter of 2012. But they are experiencing unforeseen consequences. They've given President Obama nothing left to lose by going all-in against them.

Like Clinton before him, President Obama has carried out a successful "rope-a-dope" strategy. He now can, as Chris Mathews likes to say, "attack the Republicans from a defensive position". He's all-in and ready to go for a knock-out.

DFW

(59,730 posts)
8. I doubt the Republicans care very much who they nominated
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jul 2012

They saw with Bush Jr. that they can run things and manipulate things quite easily with a clueless, obedient empty suit in the Oval Office. If they were to install Romney, things would be no different.

meow2u3

(25,240 posts)
31. That's exactly what the repukes want--a freakin' PUPPET
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:02 AM
Jul 2012

so the banksters, corporate criminals, and their middlemen, i.e., lobbyists, can run the country into the ground behind the scenes.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
10. the last presidential election the republicans actually won was old man bush
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:46 AM
Jul 2012

the only way mittens will be elected is massive machine rigging and voter suppression.

i`m sure there`s more than enough republicans that would dump him but it`s to late for that. the biggest problems they have is there is no one in the party that could out debate obama and no one in the republican camp as good as alexrod.

pacalo

(24,846 posts)
12. When a presidential candidate's handlers have to protect him from the media, you know
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:22 AM
Jul 2012

that they know, he just ain't right.

Rosanna Lopez

(308 posts)
14. I think Obama has been pretty easy on Romney so far
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:47 AM
Jul 2012

If it were me running against Romney, I would be a lot more ruthless!

Bohunk68

(1,433 posts)
20. True that.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:41 AM
Jul 2012

Frankly, I don't understand Clinton's popularity with true blue Dems. He always caved to the Repubs on everything from DOMA, DADT, and NAFTA. Instead of having a pair and using the veto, he went along. And, since he's been out, It's suck up to Poppy Bush the whole time and diss Jimmy Carter. Fuck Bill. On second thought, naw, I wouldn't.

flamingdem

(40,793 posts)
22. On to the Senate fight
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jul 2012

We need to keep the Senate so Obama's very likely triumph is supported and we can find out what he's capable of when given what he needs.

SoDesuKa

(3,173 posts)
28. Bring It
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 01:49 AM
Jul 2012

It's going to be a brawl. Obama easily defeated McCain because McCain was a lousy campaigner. Romny may be awkward but he's a serious candidate and he wants to win. Obama will stay ahead in the polls if he can keep bringin' it to the Romney campaign. Let's hope the voters don't find Romney a lovable klutz - IMO, A legitimate worry.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
33. Romney reminds me of every asshole boss I've ever had
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jul 2012

A huge superiority complex, smug, disconnected with sociopathic undertones, and obviously uncomfortable around people he sees as beneath his social class.

Who the hell wants to vote for their boss?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
32. Actually the President is just getting started. After the debates are over the Republicans will
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jul 2012

think it wasn't so much "in your face" as a tonsilectomy and Romney will be restricted to Ice Cream.

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