2016 Postmortem
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And the Republicans hate it. They can't fathom a Democrat is beating them at their own game. For so long, they assumed Democrats were light campaigners, jokers, candidates who would retreat at the first sign of adversity. Instead, Obama has turned the tables and put them on the defensive. I don't know if, since Dole, a Republican candidate has ever been on the defensive as much as Romney. He's having to explain every little detail about his past - from Bain, to the mandate to his offshore bank accounts. Instead of playing nice, he's ripped Romney a new one and that hole might not heal by November.
Romney is quickly becoming Dukakis in the sense that his campaign is constantly set back on its heels.
Romney is a lightweight and getting pounded for it. I wonder if Republicans are having second thoughts about nominating him?
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Yet he's not fighting dirty, which is all the repigs have. Well, that and an entire "news" network, AM radio, corporate media and endless lies.
This is finally getting interesting.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)is because their demo skews toward the GOP's main voting block, White, Male 45 +, Christian....
Most other demo blocs get their news and information from what was once reffered to as the Alternative News.
That's why I think this election is so important for the GOP because all the media that can be bought doesn't mean diddly shit if more than half the people don't pay that much attention to media that can be bought. This is the big one for the GOP.
Ishoutandscream2
(6,773 posts)He's Dewey 1948 re-incarnated. He lacks substance. He's wooden. He's so damned unlikable. What a shitty candidate.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Hopefully he'll win then he'll continue the fight after re-election, hopefully this time to *protect* Social Security, to keep the Medicare eligibility age at 65 (or *lower* it), to *reduce* ruinous "free"-trade treaties, to *increase* transparency in government, etc.
Carla in Sequim
(229 posts)We need to all get on board now. Let's all ask, and keep asking...Romney, what are you hiding?!"
Also, I'd like to see an ad that says 'Romney invests in foreign businesses, President Obama invests in America."
If we say it long and loud enough, he will have to release his tax returns. And then, it's over.
Willard, what are you hiding?
Iceberg Louie
(190 posts)...the top echelon in the GOP has already called this one a loss, and have been setting their sights on 2016 for a couple years now. Rmoney is absolutely the Dukakis/Kerry of this election; the unrelatable Massachusetts stiff with way too many vulnerable areas. If Obama continues staying on message (particularly with the populist angles which have really started gaining traction in the last couple months) and keeps hitting hard, Rmoney has no real advantage. He doesn't have the Hollywood appeal Reagan had, and he surely lacks any semblance of the "guy you'd like to have a beer with" quality that helped Little Bush squeak through 2004 (he definitely doesn't have, to my knowledge, any siblings pulling the strings to hijack a key state). All Rmoney has to fight back with is lots of dirty Koch cash. And I think all the puppetmasters of the GOP really hope to gain from that is to chip at whatever tiny toeholds they can in their own perceived political credibility until they run Christie/Walker in 2016.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)But I disagree with you that they have called it a loss. They are going to scratch, bite, spit and claw their way to the election doing everything possible to win. Several Republican governors in swing states support Romney and they will do whatever they need to in order to deliver their state for him. I would say never underestimate the dirty rotten stinking Republicans, even if their candidate does suck.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)They will throw everything they've got at Obama. They know that their base is shrinking (the Republican voter base is white, aging, and dying off. The percentage of the minority population is increasing by the micro-second.) I think this is why they have been so agressive in pushing their agenda in the States where they control the Legislature and the Gov. Manision. With apoligies to the Stones, time is not on their side.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)He disarmed the Repubs by being cooperative and conciliatory and they thought he was a pushover. Not exactly.
flamingdem
(40,793 posts)to hang themselves high
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)I'm enjoying every minute of his long term stategy.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)It refers to the arc of a circle of 360 degrees in which morality and justice are part of a circle. MLK spoke of it several times and Obama refered to his version of the saying that was much older:
On April 4, 2008, Senator Barack Obama, speaking on the 40th anniversary of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, declared:
"Dr. King once said that the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. It bends towards justice, but here is the thing: it does not bend on its own. It bends because each of us in our own ways put our hand on that arc and we bend it in the direction of justice..."
http://open.salon.com/blog/arthur_howe/2009/01/18/the_arc_of_the_universe_is_long_but_it_bends_towards_justice
I think Obama is very long-term thinker.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)is that Republicans think in the short-term while Democrats think in the long-term.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)the debt ceiling deal, where he showed Republicans they could not count and only getting "only" $30 billion in cuts to the 2012 budget, not the $100 billion they'd promised Teabaggers.
But now the President has no reason to continue humoring Republicans. There's nothing crucial left until after Election Day where there's any hope of getting Republican votes in Congress. The Republicans have gotten exactly what they always wanted, complete obstruction and weak job reports since the strong first quarter of 2012. But they are experiencing unforeseen consequences. They've given President Obama nothing left to lose by going all-in against them.
Like Clinton before him, President Obama has carried out a successful "rope-a-dope" strategy. He now can, as Chris Mathews likes to say, "attack the Republicans from a defensive position". He's all-in and ready to go for a knock-out.
DFW
(59,730 posts)They saw with Bush Jr. that they can run things and manipulate things quite easily with a clueless, obedient empty suit in the Oval Office. If they were to install Romney, things would be no different.
meow2u3
(25,240 posts)so the banksters, corporate criminals, and their middlemen, i.e., lobbyists, can run the country into the ground behind the scenes.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)the only way mittens will be elected is massive machine rigging and voter suppression.
i`m sure there`s more than enough republicans that would dump him but it`s to late for that. the biggest problems they have is there is no one in the party that could out debate obama and no one in the republican camp as good as alexrod.
pacalo
(24,846 posts)that they know, he just ain't right.
Rosanna Lopez
(308 posts)If it were me running against Romney, I would be a lot more ruthless!
Wounded Bear
(63,836 posts)Several months left, and they'll need ammo for later.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)"I tell the truth and they think it is hell"
Jared Martin
(6 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Bohunk68
(1,433 posts)Frankly, I don't understand Clinton's popularity with true blue Dems. He always caved to the Repubs on everything from DOMA, DADT, and NAFTA. Instead of having a pair and using the veto, he went along. And, since he's been out, It's suck up to Poppy Bush the whole time and diss Jimmy Carter. Fuck Bill. On second thought, naw, I wouldn't.
flamingdem
(40,793 posts)We need to keep the Senate so Obama's very likely triumph is supported and we can find out what he's capable of when given what he needs.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)SoDesuKa
(3,173 posts)It's going to be a brawl. Obama easily defeated McCain because McCain was a lousy campaigner. Romny may be awkward but he's a serious candidate and he wants to win. Obama will stay ahead in the polls if he can keep bringin' it to the Romney campaign. Let's hope the voters don't find Romney a lovable klutz - IMO, A legitimate worry.
demwing
(16,916 posts)A huge superiority complex, smug, disconnected with sociopathic undertones, and obviously uncomfortable around people he sees as beneath his social class.
Who the hell wants to vote for their boss?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)think it wasn't so much "in your face" as a tonsilectomy and Romney will be restricted to Ice Cream.
Herlong
(649 posts)n/t