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warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:29 PM Nov 2012

More Gridlock - Who benefits?

(cross posted from G.D.)

Even with the election of Obama, and some gains in the Senate, we all know gerrymandering has all but ensured a repub house for some time to come. (yes I know we can and must fight to regain, but it has turned into a Herculean task due to gerrymandering.).

The corporate state benefits most when the status quo is maintained. The armed civilian branch of the Federal government has long made it its mission to squelch social progressive movements such as the civil rights movement and Occupy to make sure things stay the same old same old.

So, even though the Democratic party won the election, did the corporate state really even need to win the presidency or even the Senate? As long as they can effectively keep progress stalled, haven't their goals been met?

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More Gridlock - Who benefits? (Original Post) warrprayer Nov 2012 OP
No, John2 Nov 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author antiquie Nov 2012 #2
The corporate state wins every election. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author antiquie Nov 2012 #4
Ah, I see. I'm of the school put forth by Carl Jung: "When the problem is named, healing can begin." Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #5
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John2

(2,730 posts)
1. No,
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:49 PM
Nov 2012

the Dooms day scenario is a knee jerk reaction. This country, is not going to stay stagnant. You are making the same mistake, that the Republicans are. You need to look at history. The key words are population growth and Demographics.

Right now the African American population is estimated at 45 million people and 14 percent of the population. The Hispanic\Latino population is 52 million. The white population is over 200 million which includes white and non hispanic white. You also have other races with an overall estimation of 315 million people in the United States.

By 2050, that estimation goes over 400 million people according to International Institutions. It is estimated by 2050, the European white population will fall in the minority with an estimated 46 percent over all. You have to consider population migration with growth. That means as areas get crowded, people migrate to less populated areas. The most land space are in those Red States. So the Republican Party is fighting a losing battle over time. That is the biggest threat to the Republican Party if they continue to ignore the interests of other Demographics. It will continue every election. They cannot sustain it. They cannot fight time or the future. Minority birth rates are also growing at a faster rate than whites. And the thing about the Hispanic vote, only over 3 percent are Cuban American. Even that vote is divided between younger Cubans and older generations that support republicans. President Obama won the Cuban vote over Republicans for the first time in a long time. That means the older generation is fading. Sooner or later the Republicans are going to have to face reality. It is better to adjust now, then later.

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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
3. The corporate state wins every election.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012

Let's see if the democratic party are at all serious about quickly overturning Citizens United, reinstating Glass-Steagall, stopping the well-known illegal foreclosure engine, regulating wall street, punishing the banksters, cutting the military industrial complex and their permanent war budget, eliminating plans for drones in US skies (nothing but a power grab and arms dealers opening a new market), ending funding of the insane government of Israel, freeing and compensating Bush war crime whistleblower PFC Manning, releasing Jeremy Hammond who allegedly hacked Stratfor (which was an act of whistleblowing, and note that the judge who would sentence him's husband was a Stratfor client!!!) etc. etc. etc.

And there's that pesky "Obama said zip zero zilch about a year+ of Occupiers being beaten and arrested". 7,400 and more at the last count. He DID sign HR347 and the NDAA (indefinite detention for any suspected of terrorism or terrorist ties).

Occupy Wall Street, Occupy ALL STREETS!

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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
5. Ah, I see. I'm of the school put forth by Carl Jung: "When the problem is named, healing can begin."
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

But I agree. Barking dogs are often ignored, windows shut against them.

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