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antiquie

(4,299 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 09:23 AM Mar 2013

Should Occupy Underground have a DU host?

Last edited Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:01 PM - Edit history (2)

edit to add link to original thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12526539


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Yes, OU needs a host, and I volunteer.
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Yes, OU needs a host, but not me.
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No, OU does not need a host.
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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
3. Leaning towards no
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:40 PM
Mar 2013

Sometimes I wonder if having hosts could possibly lead to squabbling and drama. There are some other good groups on DU that run fine without hosts. If we do get hosts, I hope it will be more of a rotating position with a time limit, instead of a life-long appointment. We could always revisit the issue later if there is a serious problem. On the other hand I could be totally wrong.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
4. I brought this up because of
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:53 PM
Mar 2013

this

Fire Walk With Me (36,596 posts)
14. Is it possible to get the income inequality viral video pinned and locked at the top of the forum?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12526072

and this
Fire Walk With Me (36,596 posts)
16. Whether we want a host or not should be a General Assembly (DU Poll) matter

as well as who we'd want to them to be. If we vote that we want a Host, then those who wish to be Host should speak up in a thread, and someone with DU Star privilege should start a Poll in which the group may vote. Is that correct GA procedure? I admit I marched more than attended GA...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. I wonder if we could have a 'technical' host then. Someone whose only function would be to
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:29 PM
Mar 2013

do things like that, pin important notices etc to the top of the forum, but with no other powers?

Edited to add, even that position could be rotated often. Sort of volunteer 'handymen/women'.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
7. I think it would be a honor system.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:52 PM
Mar 2013

The host would promise not to lock out anyone or any topic, excepting the obvious need, of course, without a GA (DU poll). I nominate you!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. I have faith in the honor system in this forum.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 12:26 AM
Mar 2013

But I have zero technical skills and wouldn't have a clue how to pin anything to the top of the forum! Lol!

But thank you anyhow. I am sure there are others here who would be able to do that. I'm just not sure if it would be acceptable to the admins to limit the role of hosts that way?

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
11. Whatever you guys decide I'm ok with.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:12 PM
Mar 2013

It's a fun interesting web forum.

I second the nomination for sabrina1 to host if she wanted to.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
8. Some stuff we could pin
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 05:09 PM
Mar 2013

There's a few things I would wish we could put in a post and pin at the top because they kind of show what we are about and why we identify with the Occupy movement.

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

Statement of Autonomy

A Resolution to End Corporate Personhood


ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
12. I think the name should be changed. Calling it occupy underground sounds like
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:17 AM
Mar 2013

the Occupy movement is something that has underground. It has not. Why not just call it Occupy.
Occupy in fact is the opposite of an underground movement. The latter seeks to operate in private. Occupy operates in the public sphere, visibly, and with total transparency.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. You have a point. I think, but I could be wrong, that originally the forum was suggested here to
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:41 AM
Mar 2013

provide a place on Democraticunderground free of the anti-Occupy comments that seemed intended to derail discussions of the movement. 'Underground' referred to this forum I think. However, I do agree that Occupy alone would be a good title for all the reasons you stated.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
14. thanks, I didn't know the history...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:52 AM
Mar 2013

I think it is fine to critique the Occupy movement, but from what you said, the comments were not critiquing but condemning.

It's hard for me to understand why anyone who is purportedly "on the left" would not support occupy, but I think there are a lot of trolls on this website.

and for people who think occupy is "dead" Occupy continues to join forces with the progressive activists, for ex recently in New York protesting the police shooting of (another) young Black man.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Yes, OWS is far from dead although for some reason there are those who
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:36 AM
Mar 2013

have been wishing for that from the first week. It's big movement and definitely there are reasons to offer constructive criticism, but a lot of it here was far from constructive sadly. To be fair though, it was only a few people.

I love some of the things they are doing now, such as saving people's homes from foreclosure in ways you would think Congress could have done.

Buying up loans and then forgiving them, one of the best things they have done recently. And mostly, I love how they are winning every case against them in the courts. That is a testament to how they were organized before they even went onto the streets, re photographing every arrest to ensure that if the police lied, they had proof of those lies. And they have.

Like all Social Justice movements, OWS will probably go through many changes but I doubt they will go away until something is done about the conditions that created them in the first place.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
19. yes, and Occupy Sandy stepped in when the gov't left people stranded in high-rises with no food, ...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:14 AM
Mar 2013

no water, no elec, no medicine, and saved a lot of lives.

even the mainstream media had to admit that Occupy Sandy performed much better than FEMA and Red Cross (admittedly those 2 set a low bar, lol)

Occupy Sandy was organized and humane, and when people needed something they knew where to go. In many places FEMA and Red Cross were nowhere to be found. Occupy Sandy didn't have people fill out tons of paperwork - I know people who are still waiting for word from FMA - they just said, What do you need? and found it.

The a__wipe mayor closed centers where Occupy Sandy was performing so efficiently. I guess they don't want people to see that it can be done - people helping people.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
17. We might reopen this if there is enough interest.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:18 PM
Mar 2013

My understanding of the discussions is that we may want an administrative host so our group takes advantage of some host powers. The host could pin topics and post polls (to serve as general assembly consensus votes) when needed or requested. The Occupy host would not block members or lock topics without a poll.

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