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antiquie

(4,299 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:17 AM Apr 2013

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Mayor Bloomberg will do nothing about this. Eric Holder will do nothing about this. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #1
Invaders antiquie Apr 2013 #2
When I took my bike on the NYC subway, rocktivity Apr 2013 #3
truly... Bully Taw Apr 2013 #4
Okay. antiquie Apr 2013 #5
i agree... Bully Taw Apr 2013 #6
When we've seen video tapes of police needlessly pepper-spraying people, it is wrong to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #7
do you know what Courthouse News Service is? Bully Taw Apr 2013 #8
Bullshit. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #9
Ha! Bully Taw Apr 2013 #10
The reason it is believable is because our police have been known to shoot sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Dryvinwhileblind Apr 2013 #11
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
1. Mayor Bloomberg will do nothing about this. Eric Holder will do nothing about this.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:22 AM
Apr 2013

Where is the humanity in these people?

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
2. Invaders
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:24 AM
Apr 2013

from a parallel universe.
Nothing human or humane about them.

rocktivity

(44,883 posts)
3. When I took my bike on the NYC subway,
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:26 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:58 PM - Edit history (2)

I would park it by the service gate, alert the token clerk especially if the gate was electronic, pay my fare through the turnstile, open the gate, and pull the bike through.

Don't the service gates have to be opened by someone in the toll booth nowadays? And what are you supposed to do with a stroller -- you can't push it through the turnstile!


rocktivity

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
4. truly...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:34 AM
Apr 2013

does this story seem reasonable or believable as it is written here? I am all for calling out police officers for the rotten stuff that they do, but we do not need to sensationalize or fabricate what isn't true.

I cannot accept this story as it is written, and I would bet everything that it did not happen, or at least happen this way.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
5. Okay.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:41 AM
Apr 2013

The court will decide.

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
6. i agree...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:47 AM
Apr 2013

If there is wrongdoing, then these police officers should get the punishment they deserve. The problem is that with many of these news organizations, finding the truth can be tricky.

Take, for example: http://www.ripoffreport.com/courthouse-news-serv/child-protective-services/pasadena-california-517d0.htm

Who knows if this is true or not.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
7. When we've seen video tapes of police needlessly pepper-spraying people, it is wrong to
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

reject the reported incident out of hand.

The source for the story is Courthouse News Service. The case has been filed in a Federal court. The Federal court rules, and particularly Rule 11, require attorneys filing lawsuits to first verify that the facts support their pleadings. Attorneys who fail to do so can be sanctioned heavily.

You have no factual basis for believing or suggesting that others believe that the event did not happen.

 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
8. do you know what Courthouse News Service is?
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 01:54 PM
Apr 2013

This story was written from the prospective of that plaintiff, with no evidence or corroboration that the story is accurate. In fact, the woman was arrested and arraigned, and the story also claims that the police officers are still harassing her. Does your common sense tell you that this is a truthful account of the story?

Besides, if you believe everything you read on the internet, the founder of Courthouse News Service was recently arrested for rape and fraud. do you also believe that is true as well?

Did you see video tape of police pepper spraying these kids, or are you making the assumption that since some police have pepper sprayed some people, that it must be true that these police officers pepper sprayed this woman and her kids?

And, if you think that attorneys follow rules and never exaggerate or fabricate, then I have another hard truth for you.

I get that you want to believe that cops are bad people. You will get that chance without abandoning your common sense.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
9. Bullshit.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 01:57 PM
Apr 2013
 

Bully Taw

(194 posts)
10. Ha!
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:01 PM
Apr 2013

Clever.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. The reason it is believable is because our police have been known to shoot
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:07 AM
Apr 2013

and kill children in their own homes, dogs, teenagers and adults, pepper-spray elderly people, the homeless, the infirm.

Whether or not this story is true, so long as we tolerate the brutality of the police, see OWS War Veterans eg and still no one held accountable, people will believe these stories, true or not, as many of them, far, far too many tragically, have been true.

I have no idea if this is true as reported here. And there was a time when I would have doubted it. But not any more. I've read too many cases of police brutality and the lack of accountability for it.


I watched the brutal attacks on peaceful, OWS protesters, including the elderly, disabled etc and am no longer shocked at all by what our civilian police do.

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