History of Feminism
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"I'd love to create something like the 'Mary Beard Prize for women online' to support people who are supporting women to be able to use the internet safely," he said in the article, which was published on 8 August.
A great idea and one that would win support from many editors at the Guardian who see the amount of the moderators' time spent weeding out either off-topic or offensive comments in threads attached to any article loosely related to feminism or women's issues.
As one moderator told me:"There seems to be a huge backlash against the Guardian's increasing coverage of feminist issues, from more frivolous pieces (body hair, sunbathing topless, anything to do with Beyoncé) to pieces on domestic violence, FGM etc. WATM (what about the men) is now something we look out for on any piece about women as standard."
Alex Needham, acting network editor, raised the issue at the Guardian's morning conference following an article by Hadley Freeman on 5 August about the arguments for and against women shaving their body hair.
He told me in an email: "On any article by Laura Bates or Jessica Valenti, or most recently this piece by Hadley, the first 15 or 20 comments always say 'not this again, Guardian, where are the men? We face this kind of problem, so cover that instead.' Because the comments are off-topic they're then removed, which leads to cries of censorship and the claim that the Guardian is sexist that the problems of white working-class males (who these commenters say are the real victims in society) are ignored."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/10/readers-editor-online-abuse-women-issues
littlemissmartypants
(26,351 posts)love_katz
(2,894 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Was looking to download a copy of Emerson's essaay on Self-Reliance after reading a report on AMAZON:
...His words and ideas are so powerful and deep that we soon realize that they didn't come only from a brilliant mind, but also from a warm-hearted soul!
That's exactly what this book is about: Its sentences break through your brain and penetrate right into your soul! Emerson's optimistic view on human beings and life can only reinforce our courage in mankind and, especially, in ourselves!
What else can I say? His speech is direct, he defends all the good values, tell us to have confidence in ourselves and show us that passing through life with dignity is a matter of choice and courage, and that it simply doesn't change with time...
This is the book I grab to comfort my spirit when I'm having difficult times...
http://www.amazon.com/Self-Reliance-Other-Essays-Thrift-Editions/dp/0486277909/ref=pd_sim_b_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=06MC2EXAXHNKTVTJYKED
Looked for an audiobook, but:
Reviewer: doowopbob -
3.00 out of 5 stars3.00 out of 5 stars3.00 out of 5 stars - May 9, 2010
Subject: ...Yup..
....When There Were No Girls Around..We Got Self Reliant..Girls Never Knew About The Jerk Circle, Except For Judy Who Loved Being The Center Of Attention..Whadda Mess She Hadda Clean Up..!
https://archive.org/details/Developi1951
Although penned years ago, it's a level of familiarity and contempt that is disgusting.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Or about male options in childcare. Or male complaints about being objectified in fashion shoots.
Why should women get all the frivolous stuff?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)But, it's the men, so it's important.
mackerel
(4,412 posts)the online versions of the local papers in the areas where I live require that you are linked through facebook if you want to comment. It's really taken a dent of the negative comments. I'm sure keyboard courage survives somewhere else on the net.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts). . . The one and only . . .
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hlthe2b
(107,530 posts)But, I'm not sure why it is you posted this in reply...? though I'm likely to watch it in entirety later on.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)"I'd love to create something like the 'Mary Beard Prize for women online' to support people who are supporting women to be able to use the internet safely," {former Labour Party advisor Charlie Leadbeater} said in the article, which was published on 8 August.
hlthe2b
(107,530 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,860 posts)is, sad to say, also quite prevalent right here on DU. Just try starting any thread trying to specifically discuss sexism and how entrenched it still is, or any other women's rights issue (including the prevalence of rape and violence against women, and the recent attempts to relax laws against them) and you get a cacophony of bleating about how men are being ignored, or what I call the "benevolent" concerns of "why aren't we talking about other "isms" as well, or even those who claim that women have it a lot better than they think the do and they don't get why men may be worse off.
Of course, then there are those here who call child support "male enslavement", or who even try to either downplay rape or even re-define it, etc. Yes, indeed, the WATM whiners are here also, and in greater numbers than should be found on a liberal, progressive site. And those numbers should be zero.
Triana
(22,666 posts)So I'm (perhaps erroneously) assuming that a significant percentage of problem "WATM" commentary is coming from those quarters.
I think some males are SO used to the entire world being centered around them, that they feel insecure about women getting any attention for their own issues. And when men have similar issues, their complaints are valid. When women have them, it's "whinging".
Same ol, Same ol.