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Related: About this forumHey, Jian Ghomeshi, I Call B.S.!
A few days ago, news broke that Jian Ghomeshi, longtime host of CBC Radio's culture magazine Q (for which I was once interviewed), would be taking an indefinite leave of absence for "personal reasons." At that point, there was no reason for Americansexcept perhaps fans of Q on Public Radio Internationalto give a damn about a Canadian demi-celebrity who sounded like he was probably just headed to rehab.
Those were happier times.
On Sunday, news broke that the CBC had decisively cut ties with Ghomeshi, rather than leaving things open for him to return. Also, Ghomeshi was suing the CBC for $50 million, for "breach of confidence and bad faith." And then, after consulting with his lawyers and Canada's answer to Olivia Pope and Associates, Ghomeshi published a 1,600-word Facebook post telling his side of the storywhich is that he was fired for his personal sexual proclivities, which include BDSM.
His version of events is that he broke up with a woman with whom he'd had consensual kinky sex, and she was so furious about the rejection, she initiated "a campaign of harassment, vengeance, and demonization" that would come to involve multiple women. Even though Ghomeshi assured us that a major newspaper had looked into the women's claims and decided they weren't even worth covering, he apparently still had a strong suspicion that shit was about to go down, and it would look a little like this:
In the coming days you will prospectively hear about how I engage in all kinds of unsavoury aggressive acts in the bedroom. And the implication may be made that this happens non-consensually. And that will be a lie. But it will be salacious gossip in a world driven by a hunger for "scandal". And there will be those who choose to believe it and to hate me or to laugh at me. And there will be an attempt to pile on. And there will be the claim that there are a few women involved (those who colluded with my ex) in an attempt to show a "pattern of behaviour". And it will be based in lies but damage will be done.
As the writer Rebecca Makkai said on Facebook, "This is a little like when my 7-year-old runs out of my 4-year-old's room going 'I didn't hit her with a plastic tomato!'"
- See more at: http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/10/28/hey-jian-ghomeshi-i-call-bs#sthash.kPKW8tzh.WSEVu06X.dpuf
Those were happier times.
On Sunday, news broke that the CBC had decisively cut ties with Ghomeshi, rather than leaving things open for him to return. Also, Ghomeshi was suing the CBC for $50 million, for "breach of confidence and bad faith." And then, after consulting with his lawyers and Canada's answer to Olivia Pope and Associates, Ghomeshi published a 1,600-word Facebook post telling his side of the storywhich is that he was fired for his personal sexual proclivities, which include BDSM.
His version of events is that he broke up with a woman with whom he'd had consensual kinky sex, and she was so furious about the rejection, she initiated "a campaign of harassment, vengeance, and demonization" that would come to involve multiple women. Even though Ghomeshi assured us that a major newspaper had looked into the women's claims and decided they weren't even worth covering, he apparently still had a strong suspicion that shit was about to go down, and it would look a little like this:
In the coming days you will prospectively hear about how I engage in all kinds of unsavoury aggressive acts in the bedroom. And the implication may be made that this happens non-consensually. And that will be a lie. But it will be salacious gossip in a world driven by a hunger for "scandal". And there will be those who choose to believe it and to hate me or to laugh at me. And there will be an attempt to pile on. And there will be the claim that there are a few women involved (those who colluded with my ex) in an attempt to show a "pattern of behaviour". And it will be based in lies but damage will be done.
As the writer Rebecca Makkai said on Facebook, "This is a little like when my 7-year-old runs out of my 4-year-old's room going 'I didn't hit her with a plastic tomato!'"
- See more at: http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/10/28/hey-jian-ghomeshi-i-call-bs#sthash.kPKW8tzh.WSEVu06X.dpuf
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Hey, Jian Ghomeshi, I Call B.S.! (Original Post)
ismnotwasm
Oct 2014
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)1. a woman scorned defense. this is the harm of that term. snicker snicker. used to excuse abuse of
women.
no.
ismnotwasm
(42,507 posts)2. Good article
Can we acknowledge this for once, instead of mindlessly furthering the myth that women are so capricious and fundamentally terrible, we'll gladly ruin an innocent man's life, working together or separately? Can we pause to consider the deeply offensive implication that such behavior sounds more like something the average woman might do than something a desperate man would dream up to deflect attention from himself? Accusing someone of a crime he didn't commit is not something a person with a conscience does for any reason, let alone some petty personal grievance. So if you believe it's something a woman might just do after any given sexual encounter, for the flimsiest of reasons, you pretty much believe that women, as a class, are prone to sociopathy.
And yet, the rush of Ghomeshi supporters willing to propagate this ludicrousnot impossible! But ludicrous!narrative on social media feels awfully familiar. It seems that every time a male celebrity is accused of rape or sexual assault, people eagerly latch onto any bonkers theory that might explain away the allegations, while ignoring the simplest explanation: They're probably true.
We'd much rather think, for instance, that the victims are seeking money or fame, not justice. The woman Mike Tyson was convicted of rapinglike one of the ones who reported being raped by Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, and the victims of former BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall, and the woman who reported that two New York Police officers assaulted her, and a woman who accused college football star Jameis Winston of raping herwas repeatedly called a gold digger. But the stereotype of the lying bitch looking for a payday is as ridiculous as it is pernicious. Putting yourself through the public scrutiny and inevitable harassment that follows accusing a beloved figure of rape, on the off chance that it might lead to a hefty settlement, is really not a super-effective get-rich-quick scheme. Why do we so easily believe that's the "real story" behind reports of famous men committing sexual violence?
We were just as inexplicably quick to believe that Roman Polanski's 13-year-old victim "looked older" in the 46-year-old director's eyes. Football coach Jerry Sandusky was engaging in typical athletic "horseplay," not molesting boys in the showers. Dominique Strauss-Kahn thought the woman wearing a hotel maid uniform, and identifying herself as a hotel maid, was a prostitute. Cee Lo Green slipped a woman a mickey, sure, but the sex was consensual. Bill Cosby's been accused of sex crimes, frequently involving drugged victims, no fewer than 13 times, but it can't possibly be true!
It's difficult to choose among the many absurd things we've been asked to believe about Woody Allen in the wake of his daughter Dylan Farrow's reminder that yes, she really did report that he molested her when she was 7 years old, and yes, she will reaffirm that report today, even if the rest of us forgot about it in the intervening 20 years. Allen's documentarian, Robert B. Weide, gave us loads of options for Most Absurd Explanation when he wrote a fawning defense of his friend in The Daily Beast.
- See more at: http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/10/28/hey-jian-ghomeshi-i-call-bs#sthash.kPKW8tzh.QXtHlzxd.dpuf
And yet, the rush of Ghomeshi supporters willing to propagate this ludicrousnot impossible! But ludicrous!narrative on social media feels awfully familiar. It seems that every time a male celebrity is accused of rape or sexual assault, people eagerly latch onto any bonkers theory that might explain away the allegations, while ignoring the simplest explanation: They're probably true.
We'd much rather think, for instance, that the victims are seeking money or fame, not justice. The woman Mike Tyson was convicted of rapinglike one of the ones who reported being raped by Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, and the victims of former BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall, and the woman who reported that two New York Police officers assaulted her, and a woman who accused college football star Jameis Winston of raping herwas repeatedly called a gold digger. But the stereotype of the lying bitch looking for a payday is as ridiculous as it is pernicious. Putting yourself through the public scrutiny and inevitable harassment that follows accusing a beloved figure of rape, on the off chance that it might lead to a hefty settlement, is really not a super-effective get-rich-quick scheme. Why do we so easily believe that's the "real story" behind reports of famous men committing sexual violence?
We were just as inexplicably quick to believe that Roman Polanski's 13-year-old victim "looked older" in the 46-year-old director's eyes. Football coach Jerry Sandusky was engaging in typical athletic "horseplay," not molesting boys in the showers. Dominique Strauss-Kahn thought the woman wearing a hotel maid uniform, and identifying herself as a hotel maid, was a prostitute. Cee Lo Green slipped a woman a mickey, sure, but the sex was consensual. Bill Cosby's been accused of sex crimes, frequently involving drugged victims, no fewer than 13 times, but it can't possibly be true!
It's difficult to choose among the many absurd things we've been asked to believe about Woody Allen in the wake of his daughter Dylan Farrow's reminder that yes, she really did report that he molested her when she was 7 years old, and yes, she will reaffirm that report today, even if the rest of us forgot about it in the intervening 20 years. Allen's documentarian, Robert B. Weide, gave us loads of options for Most Absurd Explanation when he wrote a fawning defense of his friend in The Daily Beast.
- See more at: http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/10/28/hey-jian-ghomeshi-i-call-bs#sthash.kPKW8tzh.QXtHlzxd.dpuf
ismnotwasm
(42,507 posts)3. Amanda Palmer has cancelled her appearance with him
Last edited Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:48 PM - Edit history (1)
She angered many by giving him the 'benefit of a doubt" but in the end made the right choice
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)4. I really appreciate this post an the article
I have been a great fan of Jian Ghomeshi/ the Q ... as the article states, as an American , i did initially shrug it off as another semi celebrity headed for rehab ... then weird bits of info seemed to come to my attention .... this ties it all together.
His actions and his peremptory strikes against his accusers are disturbing (disgusting) to say the least.