I don't think I understand, nor do I understand the context.

Is there a link?

Sorry.

Fascinating, indeed.

The problem seems to be that the country is woefully underserving men & boys.

Uh yep.

but ya, the women did not go out as strongly as the past. nor other groups, that the men that run the party, depend on. ya know.

i gottta say though. i am not opposed to saying women did not go out like they needed to, nor millenniums, and other dems.

Male or female who didn't participate owns a little of this-- and I don't mind saying either

to the bare minimum and none of us can afford this, in day to day living.

Except for the actual politicians we're voting for.

represent me compared to the repugs. not even close. not... both the smae, because they are not even close to being the same.

no. i do not get all i want.

and damn straight i am going out and voting because there is enough to require i go out and vote.

I think we'll ultimately be ok-- the republicans will do what they've alway done-- block progress(not that that is 'ok') but with more clout. The dens are now gong to block the asinine shit the repute are going to try, and if it gets really bad, I hope Obama has his veto pen ready

Republicans have effectively controlled Congress despite not having majorities. Now that they do, I think they will try a lot. Given Obama's previous attitudes towards bipartisanship, I'm worried he may not veto everything he should in the interest of looking like he's working with them.

Not to mention, I have a bad feeling that on the state level in conservative controlled areas, things are about to get much worse. Voter suppression will hit us hard in 2016 unless we start changing that, and now. Abortion blocking bills are probably going to continue unabated. Already discriminated against groups are going to have an unpleasant ride before we can take back the legislatures.

be because of the lackluster candidates or poor organization and performance from the top. Combine that with the voter ID laws and other voter suppression methods that the Dems barely objected to and you would think the Dems wanted to lose.

This way when shitty bills are put forward the Dems can say well we made them less shitty so we're the good guys here.

and they really hate that..... right.

it all counts. but. the interesting i think is how colorado swept repug, after pot laws and the fear. and oregon went totally liberal. with pot law to be voted on.

i have been watching the three states, cause i am interested in moving to all three.

colorado and wa were going more progressive than oregon. but, we liked oregon the best. oregon got a little closer to the two states.

And we knew this going in. The whole thing is disgusting

I will probably always consider myself an Oregonian at heart. It's a wonderful state. I think people (at least in the western side) are fairly liberal, and then of course there's Portland. It's a good place. Our election went well this year, and I'm proud to say I got to vote for the first time for all of what we managed to pass.

I saw the comments blaming minorities. It's ridiculous. One poster managed to specifically call out blacks, hispanics, women, and youth all in one post. Of course, voter suppression had nothing to do with it. Democrats without identifiable policy stances (and certainly no spine) had nothing to do with it either. Because when in doubt, blame the minorities. It's worked rather well for the conservatives.

I'm a Seattle girl through and through

I'm lucky that I have the UW campus and Lake Washington nearby to go to, not to mention Ravenna and Greenlake and the Burke-Gilman trail. I probably spend too much time outdoors, but eh. I like it. I'd live in the woods if I could

One good thing is it's ever too far from rural in any direction. My oldest daughter is looking at buying a little bit of acreage in Darrington. Lives just past Gold Bar right now

Hey, you wouldn't happen to know any good areas to go camping or backpacking around here, would you? I was just discussing this last night with a friend. I haven't looked online yet, but I always prefer local recommendations for the good spots.

There are so many, I'll just post this. You go out further and there's even more. Almost to mant to count Weather is changing fast though. It's almost skiing season. ( I don't ski, but have lot of friends that do)


http://www.everytrail.com/best/hiking-seattle-washington

As for the weather, camping in the cold and rain in the PacNW is one of my favorite things. If you prepare properly, it's a blast. (Key word: if). Yeah I wonder what the snowfall is like right now. I'm hopefully going to be working as a ski instructor this year.

i would not have thought of that. i am doing bucket lists.

luvs you guys, and luvs the info.

I don't, but I do have a 6 man tent perfect for me and two friends. Put a tarp on the bottom and a tarp hung properly over the top, and very little water will get near the tent, giving you a warm and dry place if needed. Thermal underwear and a water proof outer layer is all you really need to stay warm for the most part, and you can add layers as necessary.

Those two things and that's 90% of the battle. The last 10% is learning to enjoy being wet and cold when all the previous stuff doesn't work

Rainy days and snow camping are probably on my top 10 things I love doing. It can be an incredibly peaceful and enlightening experience, sitting on a rock near your camp, listening to the rain and wind and river. If you're lucky, you can get a fire started (under a tarp haha) and then there's the warmth of the fire on your back and the gentle snapping of flames. It's beautiful in ways I can't begin to describe.

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Be funny if you two met-- she and her husband are out at Snoqualmie every winter

when we start seriously looking, i might hit you up on info.

right now, for that part of washing, i am looking at and am most comfortable with the olympia area

The schools are pretty good, and I think it's a goid community. Admittedly the traffic has been getting worse and worse (more in the eastern part towards Portland and Beaverton), and I think the backups on 26 going into Portland are terrible. But even so, if you don't like that, going a little further west you lose all the traffic, and the forestland is nice.

I do like the Olympia area. Really, most places in the PacNW are better than almost anywhere else in the US, in my opinion. There's a spot for almost anyone.

That would be it

i am not much into the whining part of a loss. i havent been reading a lot of OP. but, would read either of those, cause i have no interest how they feel about women.

sorry i did not catch on. i thought it was just a general, over all blame on the women and millennium, not an all out mra rant.

and focused entirely on the interests of white men of means, all would be right in the world. Then of course, as one of the usual suspects insists, women wield all the political power because more of us vote. The fact that men actually hold positions of power is irrelevant. The problem is women vote, and that is responsible for the downfall of humanity, particularly the votes of single women. In the other words, the problem is those of us who actually vote for Democrats.

private forum can and does have its own rules. bye, get a new hobby.

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
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laughing

I'm up for a vacation. I didn't see the post, but sadly I suspect that isn't what he had in mind.

Not sure how these white dudes are gonna make it once they send all us women to Africa, you know, cause they are so damn awesome smart and all. Lol

He needs a new hobby. I can not imagine what satisfaction he gets from going through all the work of signing up, posting, to have the posts go poof. Dude needs a new hobby.

He comes here often-- unfortunately--I don't know he thinks he needs the practice to sound stupid

Though I see I missed his two replies to me. Darn. Lol.

hoot. go to your room, little boy until you learn how to behave

how certain men feel about women, ad nauseoum.

the reason I fished these two ops out is because, as you know, when the MRAS get called out on their bs, they say "WHERE DID YOU READ THIS?" with all the fury of some Witchfinder General. Of course, they do so knowing full well that to call them out by name is a Tos violation, where they will alert. However, this op gave me an opprtinity tosimple present that these ops were and example of what this lady was saying, so that when the mras said "where did you see us doing that" she could simply show them, in which case, the mras have nothing better to do but growl.

were talking about. i guess fear of a hide and call out, which is not against the rules when discussing an issue.

thanks

agree

especially as I see someone hid behind auto remove. It is one thing to be an agressive creep when you are dbetaing, it is another to keep insisiting you never attacked, and wait until the fly is in your web. I know said idiots will be back, so go ahead and throw quotes at them.

Which is really typical of every problem, to hear white middle-aged conservative men tel lyou about it.

That either means someone realized they were an idiot or
They will be going to that other site to plan an attack.