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But Ive read Scott Aaronsons article and Laurie Pennys article and Chana Messingers article and Im still nowhere closer to having a conclusion about any of this. I do know this: pain is real no matter who feels it. I am a feminist and I sympathize with Aaronson. Does this make me that much of an anomaly? I doubt it, but who knows.
I also know this: the vast majority of the time that this particular shy nerdy guy pain has been shared with me, it has been shared in response to my attempts to discuss or advocate against sexual harassment and assault, or sexism in general. This makes it very difficult to continue being compassionate.
I dont agree that But I was sad because I could never get laid necessarily always means I am demanding that some woman sleep with me in order to make me feel better, but I understand why many feminist women think that it does. Were not sure what else were supposed to do with all this pain being handed to us. Aaronson may think hes the only one, or one of the only ones, but many of us have been hearing this sort of thing for years. Some of us heard it from the guys we hopelessly crushed on in high school, who ignored us to fantasize about prettier, normal-er girlsbecause, guess what? Shy nerdy girls who cant get laid exist, too.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/2015/01/04/compassion-men-and-me/
seaglass
(8,181 posts)it was in response to. Lots to digest.
I just love the end of the one you've linked to:
"I follow these discussions, the Feminists Need To Be More Considerate Of Mens Feelings discussions, and I feel that, once again, mens feelings are being handed to me to deal with. And Im just not sure what Im being asked to do with them. Do you want me to sympathize with you? That I can do. Ive always done it, and I will always do it. If you recognized yourself in Aaronsons post: Im sorry you had such a shitty time. I wish it could have gone better.
But do you want me to sympathize with you, or do you want me to drop what I was carrying to hold your feelings instead?
That I will not do.
Every time I try to be more compassionate towards the men I criticize, I am told that Im still not compassionate enough.
Its almost as though they want me to just stop criticizing."
http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/2015/01/04/compassion-men-and-me/
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)But I just read the linked Laurie Penny article. That was one hell of a piece. It should be mandatory reading for men in STEM fields.