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But after half a decade of the sex grind, I decided to call it quits. For despite having entered the smut leagues with the very best of intentions, the vast majority of the porn I ended up shooting was not sex-positive in character. Instead, the sex I found myself videotaping was of the Gonzo variety: the kind of scenes that are harshly lit, reek of a basement in the San Fernando Valley, and inevitably wind up devoured and forgotten in 15 minutes. If my career as a director is notable in any way, its that Ive played for both sideswhich is to say, while Ive shot hundreds of hetero scenes, Ive shot almost as many in gay porn.
We Have to Give Them What They Want
Though gay and straight porn may appear distinct from one another mostly due to the various orifices which receive the majority of the cameras gaze, for me, the most important difference was that they felt governed by subtly different moral tenets.
Lets begin with straight porn; for thats where I began. I got into porn as a horny 23-year-old Jewish kid, hoping to stare at and hopefully score with curvy women who didnt see a roll in the hay as too absurd a way to make their rent. Perhaps I was blessed with an excessively literal mind, but I quite simply imagined that the best way for me to live out my sexual fantasies was to, well, join the sex industry itself. It was not to be so simple, I soon discovered: many a man had shared my same dream. A good job was hard to come by, but after months of crushing disappointments, I finally landed a mildly lucrative gig shooting camera for a website. Understandably, I was psyched.
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thucythucy
(8,801 posts)The contrast between straight and gay porn is instructive.
Thanks for posting this.
CTyankee
(65,441 posts)It would be interesting to see how it operates and how it is done differently from male centered porn.
mopinko
(72,054 posts)annie sprinkle, and her offspring. not all, tho.
there is a woman owned toy store here where they specialize in things that are actually sex positive. they even make some of their own.
it has plots (tho they are mostly silly), it is slow, and it gets very hot. very, very different.
i met the owner thorough some work i did with a women's art org. i didnt know much about her, besides what i saw of her store, etc. i bumped into her one time at the local farmer's market. she was there w her hubby and 2 little kids. we both had to take a minute to recognize each other. it was so out of context. we shared a good laugh at that.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)It's really hard to find, though, and even then, a lot of it is still messed up, just in a less overt manner. I would recommend some, but I stopped watching any halfway through high school, and I don't remember any of the names. It got to the point where I couldn't stand filtering through all the really awful crap. It amazes me how many people watch it--kinda scary when you realize how high of a percentage of the male population actually watches the stuff.
JustAnotherGen
(33,960 posts)But a good and interesting read.
He also got to the crux of why it's so well - just - ugly these days.
starroute
(12,977 posts)"Gay porn, in fact, was so goddamn simple that it approached a type of Zen beauty. I mean, this was guys taking on guys, in every shape and form imaginable, for the most part in good humor and absent-minded lust. They may have stuck to roles of tops and bottoms, but in the dressing room, we all seemed equals, on the same team. Everyone laughed at me for being a straight guy shooting gay porn. Some tried to entice me to jump in front of the camera for kicks. But we all laughed about it. We all seemed like friends. The sadness and the degradation I had come to associate with my job, with videotaped sex for money, was suddenly absent."
Why is guy-girl stuff pervaded by anger and resentment when guy-guy stuff isn't?
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)my thought on this question is that guys are equal outside the bedroom.
the power structure. no "punishment" involved
they are both patriarchs therefore each other's equal.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Indeed.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)It is unarguably less violent for the most part than straight porn, but what I remember seeing was that there was still excessive domination. The vast majority of what I saw was close to violent, if not completely so. Maybe I just wasn't in the right places, but it was still pretty tough to find decent stuff.
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)I find the same dynamic in Gay and straight porn, Domination, emphasis on 'barely legal', racism etc. I was thinking the guy was speakng from a filmmaker POV-- which is somehow even sadder