a surgical abortion? They are still available in some cities even with the new restrictions. Just curious.

she can get an abortion up to 20 weeks at least. She has plenty of time to get it done inTexas.

the pill is not available in texas. albq confirmed. albq planned parenthood confirmed no surgical either.

i knew it was down to two places in texas, way down south. i understood was a waiting period and a thing shoved up vaginas to humiliate and cause pain. i had also heard they implemented a new law about having it done in hospitals. i did not know where we were at that

for those stating it can be done in texas, which i thought it could be also..... i have had four sources in the know, say no.

the procedure had to take place there. That would effectively close all but 6 clinics in the state. However, I'm not in Texas, so I could be misinformed.

I'm sorry your friend has to go through all of this.

it is a big state.

i did not read that article.

but.... in the title and the last law to be passed, i did hear mention that would stop all abortions in texas.

it appears to be so.

If you wanted me to, I could ask if she knows anywhere in the state this can be done.

and thank you.

Been so long since I had to think about any of this. And the laws differ from state to state, right. In some states, isn't twelve weeks the cut-off point?

Good luck with all this. I am glad she has you for a friend to help her through this.

it was more peripheral with what our girls were going thru and what the men were doing to our girls, with laws.

she made her first appointment weeks ago. fell on today. they diagnosed 9 weeks 2 days. we were looking at the options and educating ourselves on mifepristone this weekend. so this morning, with the first appt, she had a discussion with the doctor, that then went to plan parenthood, that then went to new mexico, out of texas.

amazing. huh?

ugh.

First off, I can't believe she allowed an appt. to be made that far out. but, too late for that now. Water under the bridge.

Are you implying that she can get the procedure in New Mexico?

she qualifies for.

at first, it was not even a consideration to abort. she was looking at other solutions. the last week, stuff has happened that now abortion the answer. first appt generally take that long around this area, even during my time 17 and 19 yrs ago.

I am assuming that she did a home pregnancy test and needed to have that confirmed.

Thing is, WE shouldn't have to be under this pressure but, the reality is we are.

Those first few weeks are so important because of these artificial constraints that MEN (and unwitting women) have placed on WOMEN to make a decision that is really NOBODY'S business but, her own ... and ... *her Doctor and he should only have limited input, imo.*

HER BODY> HER RULES>THAT SIMPLE. EOD (end of discussion)

pharmacy and available, a doctor.... gyno, internest, family physician, should be able to prescribe. that simple. i had no idea, our women and girls, must immediately make the decision in order to simply have the option. BEFORE the doctor even feels the need to see a preg woman. they wait cause really there is not reason, so many miscarriages at this time, and that is when they implement schedules for care and vitamins and other preg related info.

she was just one that would look at options and not consider abortion. revealed facts changed the circumstances. shit happens.

i will be more educated for the future, anyway. like you and i both said, this just has not been in our world.

for your friend?

it can be done up to nine weeks.

about all fifty states current laws/regulations concerning termination options and medical information about the current options available in the fifty states and the US territories.

It could show up in searches and we don't know who we could help out there.

GTFOO = Get the freak out of. In case you didn't know.

get out of the fuckin state to exercise their legal right to a legal medical procedure?

so simple. move out of the states.

brilliant fuckin answer

Perhaps if all the women moved out of these states that severely limited their access to legal medical procedures, the states would learn.

Simple answers for simplistic minds.

Change takes place when one is confronted with regressive laws and chooses to stay in an attempt to remove them. Running away simply reinforces both the regressive laws and the weak-willed suggestions such as yours.

I prefer to call it Occam's Razor in practice. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best solution.

Look, I have been working for social, environmental, peace and justice movements for about 45 years now. For a while things were getting better, but I personally have nearly had it. I have confronted these regressive laws, and literally hundreds of other issues over time. I am getting a little bit fed up of having a peace rally, or another sort of rally and only a handful of people show up.
It's not like the politicians are going to listen to us. They have their own "news" channel in Fox. The oligarchs have bought and paid for nearly each and every politician. ESPECIALLY those in Texass. Change can only take place now if these oligarchs are overthrown. This cannot be done by non-violent means any more. The oligarchs own the police. There must be a revolution. I am too old to fight in one, but would if I was a bit younger. Perhaps if the oligarchs would allow the history of the French Revolution be taught in school, more people would be aware of how to do it.

One's mind need not be simplistic to figure that a simple solution is the best. On the contrary, it takes more thought to realize that there is no alternative, and it would be much more efficient, and easier to just take the most simple solution. Sometimes it is called "thinking outside of the box."

But hey, you can spin your wheels all you want if you like. If it works for you, okay. Just know that there are simpler ways to do things.

Maybe if she finds out which two drugs and at what doses, she can get them in Nuevo Laredo or Matamoros. I don't think I'd try Juarez. Too scary.

But time is of the essence if she'll even attempt a pharmacological abortion.

I know it's further. But closer than Mexico and she might have better options.

passport and probably get her one.

sad all around.

colorado spring has nothing, either. that is an easy 5 hour trip.

The Texas laws are an obscenity.

We need to revive the herbal remedies and take her horseback riding.

literally just a flash, before i walked to a reasonable solution.

Probably too late for herbal options, if they were easy monitored. Surgical is probably her only option now.

do not lose that small window, making our decisions of abortion at the truly early stages. instead of looking at various options.

them: this is the "baby" that you want.

I wonder why they gave her the impression there weren't.

http://janesdueprocess.org/find-abortion-clinic/

to find out why we were given the info we were given.

dallas is further than sante fe and albq so that may be it. and i think i read they do the pill only to 7 week? not sure. i will see when i talk to them.

thanks for the numbers

lots of options, apparently, for a surgical abortion -- the kind that used to be the only option.

I'm furious.

That is the default setting.

correct.

get misoprostol. For her stomach upset/ulcers.

But she should work fast. Also good to ask if anyone is a friend of Jane.

you have a different name on the drug. we were doing research on mifepristone.

I would research it carefully, and the dosage, and the available named brands.

no sense driving to mexico. long drive from the panhandle.

thanks for info.

for pregnancy, you may have difficulty finding a GP who would prescribe it to a pregnant woman.

If someone sets up a FAQ, this info should be included.

for the info. incorrect info at that.

Abortions are simply not available now in most counties of the US. This is due to a string of terrorist attacks on clinics, plus restrictive laws and "conscience clauses" for pharmacists.

The reason I reference counties and not cities is that rural women are most heavily impacted by these circumstances. Having abortion be legal is absolutely meaningless if you cannot find a provider.

Having to leave the state of your residence is nothing new -- in fact, it is terrifyingly old. In the mid-1970s I knew a young woman who was date-raped in Colorado and became pregnant. No abortions in Colorado. She said she got on an airplane and couldn't even remember where she went, only that it was a state where she could have the abortion she needed.

My sister, married with two kids, one of them special needs, received bad birth control advice from a doctor in New Jersey 20+ years ago. Her husband really, really did not want a third child. She already had used methods that worked for her, but the doc convinced her to change. The clinic delayed her and delayed her until practically the last day of her first trimester. She had to lose her temper and absolutely insist they do their job -- they made sure it was humiliating -- they worked hard to get her past the safe window of the first trimester.

I thought this was settled law -- until it started to be rolled back. And rolled back some more.


Planned Parenthood http://www.plannedparenthood.org

It's one thing to read about these laws in an abstract sense, but it really hits home when you hear an individual's story.

As is the case for all women who have made the decision, she needs to get it done ASAP. These laws are not just restrictive, they're also delay tactics to prolong anxiety. No one should have to endure that! I really wish men could get pregnant, how quickly the laws would change ...

My thoughts are with your friend, wishing her an uneventful surgery, speedy recovery, and peace of mind.
Please let us know how she's doing.

that is the lesson for me in all this.

excellent site for info.

Thank's for the information...fist bump!

Is that an option?

I know it's crazy. I also know Rick Perry's sister was highly involved (on the board) at the new surgical centers ... but I don't know the restrictions on weeks etc.

conversation with me about using mexico for the drug. amazing, that.

Didn't have time to read all the answers. It is just ridiculous what they've done.

And after they outlaw abortion they will attack birth control.

They're a Dutch organization helping women around the world..they have a web page, Google it. They can help. This is outrageous!

They also have a documentary, very brave group.

Here, I just learned how to cut and paste on an iPad..woot!

http://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/2582/ship-campaigns

They have a hot line and can get you pills and talk you through it on the phone...wonderful, and they know we're under attack here in the states.

one above. thank you for the info.

We've done it before and we can do it again. Women need to take charge of this issue and this group makes me proud to be feminist! I forget where I found the documentary, I think it was Netflix..awesome group of women!

Good to see you again as well!

I think this is on Netflix but here is a link for everyone..

http://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/938/in-collection/2605/vessel--documentary-about-wow

all our progress washed away.

i had an rx for the second drug mentioned at one time. if i had realized it would work for this, i would have squirreled some away before switching.
cuz imma protect my daughters whatever the fuck happens. but i just cant believe all this. i just cant.

we fought so hard, we won. now it is swept away, and we are back to the old days of the saturday bus to the state line.

i can so easily see how this would not work for many. for a lot of reasons. as it is, it is making it so tough, in an already tough situation. abortions are not just about getting it done.

To be forced to have surgical abortions in this day and age...except for the interfering religious bigots!!!

This makes me furious!

Sorry, of course there are some reasons surgery is needed, but most abortions could be done at home with pills.

I get wound up about this war on women.... *sigh*