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If youre going to bring feminist propaganda to the masses, there are worse ways than in a giant exploding truck covered with knives. In case you havent seen Mad Max: Fury Road yet, its two hours of seat-clutching, wall-to-wall explosions, giant art trucks covered with guitars that are also flamethrowers, howling Technicolor vistas, and blood on the sand. When the credits rolled, I felt like my eyeballs had been to Burning Man without me. I was thoroughly entertained.
The fact that Fury Road is so much fun is almost certainly part of the reason the antifeminist keyboard-slobberers who inhabit the murkier corners of the internet are pushing for its boycott. Last week, the website Return of Kings led the charge for men and boys to refuse to see it. This is the vehicle by which they are guaranteed to force a lecture on feminism down your throat, wrote contributor Aaron Clarey. This is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity. He must be worried that his mens rights comrades might, over the course of two hours of high-octane car-chases, momentarily forget to hate feminism. Fury Road in which an ass-kicking half-bionic heroine defies death to rescue five young women from sex slavery might be an existential threat to recreational sexism because it is so enjoyable.
Patriarchy, it turns out,
is prettiest when its on fire.
In the long history of dystopian science fiction, Fury Roads premise of misogyny is not without precedent. Violence against women is part of almost every popular fantasy of social collapse, from 1984 to Game of Thrones, in which rape and the threat of rape is part of every womans storyline. But Fury Road reminds the viewer that the liberation of women is not just a prerequisite for social equality its is also a damn good story. Patriarchy, it turns out, is prettiest when its on fire.
The film opens in a howling desert. Its somewhere in the not too distant future and all the boys have gone horribly wrong. Everyone has PTSD because the world ended and theyre still alive, and the warlord Immortan Joe controls the water supply, and with it the people. His community, the Citadel, is the kind of misogynist nightmare one imagines gives the readers of Return of Kings a guilty thrill: The women are kept as brood stock and literally milked to feed the elite. But here, violent masculinity has become social disease. Almost everyone is sick, even the young warriors called war boys, whose greatest dream is to get hopped up on nitrous and die in battle.
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DCBob
(24,689 posts)It was a fun twist to the typical hard core action movie.
mercuryblues
(15,336 posts)I recced and then unrecced by mistake.
So what this is saying, I should but this movie whe it comes out on DVD. Make my sons and spouse watch it as many times as I have had to endure the movies they buy.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and i am not into violence, fighting and long chase scenes.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)shenmue
(38,538 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)but the press is making me want to go.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)women running around.
now. qualifiers.
i havent seen it.
he knew nothing about the feminist perspective.
he just got back in town and hit the drive thru, with no idea what he and a 'friend' would watch
he started with ... a stupid movie of too long chase scenes and fights and horrible dialogue.
(he didnt know it was the blockbuster and that he was supposed to be awed)
my concern when i started hearing it advertised to peak interest with feminism/mra battle was that it just might not be.
when i asked son about the feminist perspective, he snorted.
i have to wonder if it is another tattoo girl (men who hate women) that proclaimed to be feminist and was no more than a middle age mans wet dream
so.... anyone that has seen it with a keen eye to feminism, please let me know.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)But interested to hear some perspective as well.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and to many women fall for it.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)We enjoyed it a lot. I guess it depends how one looks at it whether you think it's feminist or not. I saw it as being female-centric and the feminist theme of agency over one's self/control of one's life is woven in between the chases and fight scenes, so maybe one not looking or paying attention would miss it.
Things I liked: the mutual respect between Max and Furiosa; the wives fight right alongside Furiosa, so they are taking part in their escape; the women are portrayed realistically, whether they're the young sex slaves/wives/brood stock, older and battle-hardened warrior, older still motorcycle riding white-haired and wrinkled Mothers--their ages and roles mesh with the film's message and each woman wanting control of her own life; everyone has something at stake. There are long chase scenes, sure, and violence, and iffy dialogue. It's a Mad Max movie.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)historylovr
(1,557 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)like you I thought the women were portrayed realistically - they did what they had to do.
I too enjoyed the interplay between Max and Furiosa; he didn't act like a macho schmuck disregarding her obvious strengths, and she accepted his strength without relinquishing her own.
It was well directed I thought, with just the right amount of character intensity - for a Mad Max movie.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)Agreed. Very good directing. And the actors handled their roles quite well. I might go see it again.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Is that finally disabled women and fat women see themselves on screen doing heroic things. Furiosa is disabled, yet from what I understand, she is the toughest fighter in the movie. She isn't heroic for overcoming her disability , which is the most common "hero" disabled people get to be on-screen, she is equal to the others. The fat women apparently has a pivotal job in the rescue. This is not something we see everyday, so even if there are young and pretty girls dressed in what the villain forces them to wear, it doesn't mean that the movie is not feminist.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)gratification. It just doesn't play that way. The entire theme is that they refuse to be objects.
As far as the chase scenes, that's what Mad Max movies are.
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)I'm very excited about it. My understanding is that it's not about sexualizing women--the whole premise is they are sold into sexual slavery, a common dystopian theme, and fight their way out.
Another set of movies I love, the "Resident Evil" series features a woman badass who has a costume designed to be sexy, not as bad as it could be but still impractical, as well as other women through the series, while "strong characters", often are dressed more for display.
Sometimes the lack of musculature in these movies drives me nuts, like Angela Jolie in "Tomb Raider".
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Charlize Theron is majorly bad-ass.