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msongs

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Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:13 PM Jan 2021

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moment of truth Skittles Jan 2021 #1
I could see OLDMDDEM Jan 2021 #2
If they did, the denominator decreases because it is 2/3 of those present required to convict. hlthe2b Jan 2021 #4
Yes OLDMDDEM Jan 2021 #8
The possibility of a secret vote was mulled in 2019 and consensus was it could happen if hlthe2b Jan 2021 #3
Well if you constructed Frankenstein StClone Jan 2021 #5
The rethugs are all about staying in power. If trump continues to lose support they'll vote captain queeg Jan 2021 #6
Not just too cowardly Progressive dog Jan 2021 #7
Wrong forum? Voltaire2 Jan 2021 #9
didnt notice, guess I will take it down msongs Jan 2021 #10

Skittles

(158,552 posts)
1. moment of truth
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jan 2021

COUNTRY OR PARTY ? We know what the answer is for most of them.

OLDMDDEM

(2,077 posts)
2. I could see
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:16 PM
Jan 2021

where Moscow Mitch would tell his caucus to stay home on the day of the vote. That way the senators could say they were busy doing things for the county. The Dems would vote to convict and that would be the end of it. I hope it turns out that way.

hlthe2b

(106,208 posts)
4. If they did, the denominator decreases because it is 2/3 of those present required to convict.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jan 2021

Theoretically making it much easier to do so.

OLDMDDEM

(2,077 posts)
8. Yes
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jan 2021

It works for both parties.

hlthe2b

(106,208 posts)
3. The possibility of a secret vote was mulled in 2019 and consensus was it could happen if
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:17 PM
Jan 2021

(then-Majority Leader McConnell) wanted it. I think it is possible within the Senate rules structure, but not sure it has been done in the past. Certainly never for Presidential impeachments, but possibly for others.

StClone

(11,869 posts)
5. Well if you constructed Frankenstein
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jan 2021

And it turned into the Predator with Terminator persistency to destroy its makers, I can see why they are afraid. The monster will harm them, and maybe their families, for not supporting Trump. Best bet is to wait until the Democrats save the day and things cool off. They can then move stealthily away from T-Wrecks.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
6. The rethugs are all about staying in power. If trump continues to lose support they'll vote
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jan 2021

To convict. Trump had an iron clad following, and a large part of it were people that wouldn’t normally vote for R, or maybe even vote at all. He thought that as long as they supported trump they wouldn’t have to campaign to lock in that voting block. As those voters abandon trump the rethugs will free to do so. Of course many Rs support most of his ideas anyway so it’s not going to be a huge migration away from the rethug party, but it will be significant. Also I’m sure most of them can’t stand trump personally.

Progressive dog

(7,213 posts)
7. Not just too cowardly
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jan 2021

They are transactional, like Trump. They have no values, no plans, except holding onto office. The repub party platform was whatever Trump says it was. They are treacherous. There are exceptions, but too few to expect conviction of Trump.

Voltaire2

(14,677 posts)
9. Wrong forum?
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:49 PM
Jan 2021

You know this is in Community Help?

msongs

(70,119 posts)
10. didnt notice, guess I will take it down
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 05:03 PM
Jan 2021
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