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Hello!
I apologize in advance for being pedantic, but I was a language teacher for many years, and there is a repetitive error on the Latest Breaking News Forum.
The sentence in question is: "This message was self-deleted by its author." This sentence makes no sense. If a message were self-deleted it would be like a self-driving car. There is no driver involved in a self-driving car, and there can be no author involved in a self-deleting message.
I believe the intended meaning of the sentence is: "This message was deleted by its author." Simple, no?
I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this. And I'd also love to know if the sentence can be corrected!
Thanks for reading!
All the best,
Chrysanthemum
mahina
(18,840 posts)mean plural of forum to most people. So I'm the wrong one to ask.
TwilightZone
(28,191 posts)mahina
(18,840 posts)You're right, but I took Latin for a few years for no good reason, and that's just what my brain does.
PikaBlue
(250 posts)There is an important difference in the following two statements.
"Let's eat, Grandma!"
"Let's eat Grandma!"
bucolic_frolic
(46,561 posts)And self driving cars are far newer than self-deleting authors. They refer to very different deeds.
birdographer
(2,505 posts)But in the world today, this is pretty easy to overlook. Kids can't spell anything, nobody proofreads their YouTube video graphics or memes, as an editor I feel your pain. It's just the way of the world now, have to get used to it.
BOSSHOG
(39,593 posts)I dont know the answer to your inquiry, but would you agree the English language is the hardest on the planet? I recall the words of an Old College Professor asking way back in the 70s, imagine a Citizen of China trying to learn English. I tried but I couldnt.
dobleremolque
(891 posts)for a while. In addition to the "rough, bough, through" quirks, one of my favorite illustrations of the difficulty of English was to speak the sentence: "I really believe that", twice. The first time, emphasize the word "believe." I really BELIEVE that. The second time, emphasize the word "that" and give it the pitch rise then drop ..."THA-yut." The meaning is the polar opposite of the words spoken in the second example. No student ever quit on me, though.
Response to Chrysanthemum (Original post)
Ptah This message was self-deleted by its author.
TwilightZone
(28,191 posts)It's likely intended to differentiate from the others, though your example would probably suffice.
The process to remove one's own post is Powers -> Self-delete this post, so it's probably also worded that way for consistency.
NJCher
(37,622 posts)We should always try for the fewest possible words.
True Dough
(19,958 posts)littlemissmartypants
(24,981 posts)Shellback Squid
(9,065 posts)littlemissmartypants
(24,981 posts)EarlG
(22,476 posts)The answer is, youre not wrong, but its that way because we think of Self-delete as the specific name of a function on DU. It appears as a function in the Powers menu below any of your posts.
Part of this is just for legacy reasons. We understand that its clunky, but we deliberately chose to say self-deleted rather than just deleted in the notification because when the function was new, we wanted to be crystal clear that the post was deleted by its own author and not for some other reason. We didnt want the notification to be too similar to other notifications.
We dont mind leaving it the way it is because we still want to make sure that people associate that piece of information with the Self-delete function.
At least, thats my excuse
marybourg
(13,088 posts)as the subject of a sentence, or myself and the wife, everything else can be overlooked, in my opinion.