Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:33 AM May 2013

Mental health training for teachers approved

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Texas school teachers would receive training to identify mental illness in their classrooms under a measure that has cleared the Texas Legislature.

Lawmakers sent the bill to the governor on Sunday. It would add the training to the requirements for a teaching certificate.

Republican Sen. Robert Deuell of Greenville has said about a million students in the state suffer from illnesses and addictions that contribute to failing grades, misbehavior, crime and sometimes suicide. He proposed the training to help teachers manage their classrooms.

http://tbo.com/health/mental-health-training-for-teachers-approved-ap_health43555913163f4a889797cc2e3f536991
10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
1. I know they think they're trying to do the right thing
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:41 AM
May 2013

and maybe they are. The potential for abuse in this law seems apparent to me, though. When I went to school there were kids that were just different. They didn't really fit in anywhere and had few friends. They weren't sick, but I could see how a well meaning teacher, who is not professionally trained in mental illness diagnoses, could use this law to single kids he or she just doesn't like for whatever reason and not necessarily for the reason of the presence of a mental health problem.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
2. This is a big mistake!
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:49 AM
May 2013

As a clinical psychologist, there is no way that I can condone this.

This is just another attempt to cut costs. Schools hire psychologists just for this purpose. Teachers do not need to add mental health diagnosis, marksmanship to stop evil shooters, etc. They need to be free to do the jobs that they have training for - teaching.

Let them teach. I and others in my field are more than willing to do our jobs to assist them.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. I believe the intent is to have teachers refer students who show signs of needing help
Tue May 28, 2013, 06:42 AM
May 2013

Not make diagnoses (whatever the hell a psych dx means in 2013).

That was the intent of Obama authorizing HHS to spend ~60 million nation-wide on a similar effort.

It's unclear exactly what sort of training they will get, many states already require some sort of ed psych/developmental psych courses for pre-service teachers. Politicians seem to be most concerned about issues of 'abnormal psych' that "lead to violence", but it isn't clear what the curriculum would include.

I wonder and can't be certain that either the federal or Texas programs training will be adequate to the task, or that all teachers will perform well, or that there isn't a potential for misuse of a referral process. "Mentally-illing" difficult students by teachers has a long history of problems and contributes to the controversial use of psych meds in children.

But, there isn't any doubt that America is afraid of the mentally ill and politicians motivated by fear are concerned enough to have a desire to do "something".

The logic behind the effort seems to be that teachers spend as much or more time in direct contact with school-age children than their parents/guardians--so they are in a position to observe the semiotics of mental problems if they know what to look for... hence training of teachers.

American politicians at both state and federal seem to believe that teachers trained to recognize potential signs are in a position to do a better job of what teachers in most districts already do: flag students with potential problems and set the machinery of 'the system' in motion for referral.

They 'get' making requirements for teacher certification...they don't seem as able to 'get' that caboose...clinical treatment...costs real money.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
6. Even if they are not making diagnoses,
Tue May 28, 2013, 07:32 AM
May 2013

this has potential for great harm.

Teachers may spend a great deal of time with students but not in the way that would truly reveal the need for mental health care.

It is one thing to notice 'off behavior', it is quite another to go the next step forward and describe that behavior as indicative of a potential mental health problem. Giving them 'just enough' to be dangerous is what this looks like. I see it more and more in my clinical setting. Patients come in who have read this book or gone to that site. Oh, I am not depressed says one, I just have PTSD. Or, I am just fine, it is just my family that is dysfunction, not me.

Bad can of worms to be opening, but pyschology/psychiatry as I have known it is no longer the same entity.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. The initiative isn't about providing mental health care...it's a campaign for community security
Tue May 28, 2013, 08:12 PM
May 2013

from all the "dangerous people".

It's not just psychiatry that isn't what it once was. It's the whole freakin' country that isn't what it was.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
8. Ah, so you think this is more about school shootings then.
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:06 AM
May 2013

I really hadn't thought about that angle but you are probably right.

We both agree on your last sentence in full!

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
3. What could possibly go wrong?
Mon May 27, 2013, 08:16 PM
May 2013
The voluntary training program would last 12 hours and provide instruction for recognizing and responding to mental illnesses like depression, trauma, bipolar disorder, psychosis and severe anxiety.

What next? 'Mental Health Diagnosis for Dummies'

Latest Discussions»Support Forums»Mental Health Information»Mental health training fo...