Gun Control Reform Activism

jmg257

(11,996 posts) Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:32 AM Mar 2013

Just maybe arming teachers and other staff in schools isn't a good idea...

or police for that matter...

Lloyd police officer who fired gun in Highland NY High School resigns
after investigation finds him at fault

HIGHLAND, N.Y. — Sean McCutcheon, the resource officer who fired a shot from his service weapon in a hallway at Highland High School, has resigned from the Lloyd Police Department after an investigation concluded the incident, though unintentional, was due to “officer error,” the department said on Friday.

McCutcheon, a retired New Paltz police officer who had been the resource officer at Highland High School since early this year, was placed on leave while Lloyd police investigated the March 5 incident.

A single shot was fired from McCutcheon’s department-issued Glock 45 pistol at 1:38 p.m. that day as he was on foot patrol in a hallway at the school, police said at the time.

Lloyd police said on Friday that their investigation concluded McCutcheon had a “lapse in judgment, unsecured his duty weapon and, in doing so, inadvertently discharged one round from his weapon into the floor.”

McCutcheon was an active-duty Lloyd police officer who worked in the Highland schools through an agreement between the town and the district.
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http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2013/03/15/news/doc51436382d4cd1565275199.txt

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Just maybe arming teachers and other staff in schools isn't a good idea... (Original Post) jmg257 Mar 2013 OP

The more guns you have in an environment the more incidents with guns there will be... ellisonz Mar 2013 #1

Yep - by last count atleast 4 directly related just since these programs started after Newtown. jmg257 Mar 2013 #2

More guns is never the answer! ellisonz Mar 2013 #3

The only thing I see in common is that a profit was made on the sale and use of the guns. Yay. freshwest Mar 2013 #8

Return to your desk Johnny. reteachinwi Mar 2013 #4

A less-militarily trained, less experienced teacher would NEVER nonoyes Mar 2013 #5

Bad enough. More likely some poor hero will leave their piece on the jmg257 Mar 2013 #6

Yes, I read about that one. nonoyes Mar 2013 #7

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)

1. The more guns you have in an environment the more incidents with guns there will be...

Reply to jmg257 (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:36 AM

Mar 2013

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

2. Yep - by last count atleast 4 directly related just since these programs started after Newtown.

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:47 AM

Mar 2013

But somehow more 'guns!!!' is 'the only answer' to better safety.

{instead of the only honest answer to what is the 1 thing ALL shootings have in common?}

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)

3. More guns is never the answer!

Reply to jmg257 (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:56 AM

Mar 2013

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

8. The only thing I see in common is that a profit was made on the sale and use of the guns. Yay.

Reply to jmg257 (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:53 AM

Mar 2013

Guns are treated as just another consumer product when they should be regarded as serious tools for killing. Soldiers learn to respect their weapons.

By the regulations they signed up under, they are only to use them under orders passed down with deliberation in a war zone, not a school, not a neighborhood, not because they are ticked off.

Despite failures in the application of deadly force and theft, and other disclaimers to their regulation in the military, I suggest that civilians take the possession and use of guns just as seriously as soldiers and not as hobbies or status symbols.

reteachinwi

(579 posts)

4. Return to your desk Johnny.

Reply to jmg257 (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:11 PM

Mar 2013

nonoyes

(261 posts)

5. A less-militarily trained, less experienced teacher would NEVER

Reply to jmg257 (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:54 PM

Mar 2013

make a mistake like this, right?

What could possibly go wrong when a well-meaning teacher is distracted, while armed with a gun, and a 15-year old comes up from behind and takes away the teacher's Glock?

What could possibly go wrong?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

6. Bad enough. More likely some poor hero will leave their piece on the

Reply to nonoyes (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:04 PM

Mar 2013

back of the shitter when they realize the weight is pulling their pants to the floor.

"School security guard in Michigan leaves gun in bathroom, officials say

Officials say a recently hired security officer left a firearm unattended in a Michigan charter school bathroom, local media reported. In a Jan. 7 newsletter, the school told families it had hired the school security officer, a veteran of the Lapeer County Sheriff Department {and firearms instructor} who had retired."

nonoyes

(261 posts)

7. Yes, I read about that one.

Reply to jmg257 (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:07 PM

Mar 2013

Thank goodness no one got hurt that time.

But
Many (not most, but significant number of) tragic gun deaths are accidental, many of them children or teens.

Thus dis-proving "only criminals shoot people with guns" meme.

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