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ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:50 PM Mar 2013

Fixed Magazines - Compromise?

California law requires that so-called "semiautomatic, centerfire rifle" must have a fixed magazine i.e. non-detachable magazine with a capacity no greater than ten rounds. I would be willing to accept an assault weapons reform legislation deal that allowed the continued sale of such weapons so long as all over-the-counter sales required this reform and all "private" transfers of such weapons required modification such that if you buy one you have to make the change. I think such a measure would go a long way in reducing the practical lethality of such weapons.

Would such a compromise approach be acceptable to you?


7 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, require all transfers of such weapons to have fixed magazines.
1 (14%)
No, I would not accept such a compromise on these types of weapons.
6 (86%)
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defacto7

(13,610 posts)
1. Honestly, I don't know.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 02:16 PM
Mar 2013

I will look forward to some argument on this proposition. I would think that a fixed magazine would slow things down more than just limiting rounds... but then again not having such weapons would slow things down even more.

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
2. Oh I agree...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 02:19 PM
Mar 2013

...but I'm not really confident we'll get that at the Federal level. I'd like to see Wayne LaPierre try to argue that there is a Constitutional right to a detachable magazine.

BainsBane

(54,786 posts)
3. I don't know either
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 03:24 PM
Mar 2013

1. Like Defacto said I'd need to read the arguments for and against.
2. I don't live in California, so I don't feel that's my decision to make.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. I think much lower magazine capacity limits, fixed or otherwise are what is needed.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 03:32 PM
Mar 2013

5, for example, with no private or public sale of higher capacity magazines legal. Existing magazines can be modified to reduce capacity.

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
5. Well if you can't change magazines rapidly...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 03:45 PM
Mar 2013

...that's a big impact on the functionality of the weapon for the purpose of violence against people.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. It would help prevent mass shootings. More importantly impede gun sales.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 03:52 PM
Mar 2013

Yahoos will not line up to purchase/fondle such weapons.

Those are good things.

safeinOhio

(34,077 posts)
8. I'm not sure what the is now,
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:51 PM
Mar 2013

but I remember Ohio considered any weapon that could hold 31 rounds, 30 mag with one in the chamber a machine gun and was illegal. That might be a way to solve the high cap magazine question. Redefine guns that can hold more than 10 rounds a machine gun.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
9. Problem is...... they've already figured a way around the "fixed mag"....
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 10:30 AM
Mar 2013

They've already developed devices such as the "bullet button" or "magazine magnet"....... to bypass the "locked" magazine button. These are legal in CA as long as they "don't remain on the rifle".

The great thing about the magnetic version........ is you can leave it on the rifle .... OR take it off (if you think the popo might be inspecting your gatt).

Or .......they can just switch to a regular magazine release in about a minute. (Illegal in CA)

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
10. The question is based on a false premise
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:39 PM
Mar 2013
California law requires that so-called "semiautomatic, centerfire rifle" must have a fixed magazine i.e. non-detachable magazine with a capacity no greater than ten rounds.

Not true. Rifles that take detachable magazines are legal here, but magazine capacity is limited to 10 rounds whether it's fixed or detachable.
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